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  1. Matt Stairs Superfan Says:

    Check this out: http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/chi-10-cubs-bits-chicago-may10,0,5358138.story

    “We’re going to put together a good bullpen before long…Just give us a little time and this will get much better.”

    Lou is a moron. He just doesn’t get it that his team sucks balls. They won’t get better. They never will.

  2. ksmc2000 Says:

    The Cubs managed to pull one out in Milwaukee. It sure as hell doesn’t feel like they had a winning road trip. Nice to see that dickhead Braun strikeout with the game on the line. He’s a classless prick that is gaining a bad reputation around the league. Fielder is the class of the Brewers organization. He doesn’t “show up” the opposition the way Braun does. I loved it when Dempster bounced one off his fucking noodle on Saturday.

  3. genrebuster Says:

    “We’re going to put together a good bullpen before long…Just give us a little time and this will get much better.” – Lou

    Ha ha ha ha….yeah….right…sure…..(yawn ). Hate to say it, but I am losing interest.

    This organization stinks. Plain and simple.

    Fuck the Tribune, Zell, Selig –whoever/whatever–is standing in the way of this team being sold. 102 years of FAILURE and counting…it’s truly PATHETIC.

    FIRE JIM HENDRY.

  4. genrebuster Says:

    sorry, can’t resist:

    “I just can’t pitch these guys every day,” Piniella said of Marmol and Kevin Gregg. “I can’t. This is why it’s so important when we have a lead to add tack-on runs so we can use the other part of our bullpen, as opposed to being in close, close games all the time.”

    How about getting some major league pitchers? Or, how’s that farm system working for you now?

    Repeat after me: FIRE JIM HENDRY.

  5. erniesarmy Says:

    “We’re going to put together a good bullpen before long…Just give us a little time and this will get much better.” – Lou

    The question is, which team is he talking about?

    Who’s going to make this bullpen better? Guzman? Are you kidding me? The guy is injury prone and unproven over a whole season. Marmol? Nice stuff, but wild as a hatter. Gregg? How long before he gets another injury? Heilman? Yeah, in Iowa.

    Plus, Rotschild will make a mess of any bullpen he gets his hands on, so what difference will it make?

    Lou has become a true company man. What a waste. He used to be a fighter, a guy who wouldn’t take it from anybody. The suits at the Tribune have him jumping through hoops just like all the others.

    Hey fellas, how much longer till they sell this franchise to an real owner?

  6. chucky Says:

    “We’re going to put together a good bullpen before long…Just give us a little time and this will get much better.”

    When did the Cubs re-hire Dusty Baker?

  7. Sandberg23 Says:

    What’s up with the man love Lou has for Aaron Miles?? It is eerily reminding of Dusty and Neifi all over again. It’s time for the man love for this punch and judy hitter to stop lou!! Also, what’s up with that batting stance Miles has?? He looks like he can’t hit before he swings that bat as well. He was playing him almost everyday even before Ramirez got hurt. Now he’s sitting Theriot so he can get him in the lineup. WTF Dusty Piniella???

  8. Sandberg23 Says:

    Oh yeah I forgot to mention the comments he made last week that the fans need to stop booing.. OK Piniella or I mean Dusty or who ever the fuck you are. It’s been a 101 yrs since they won it. We have every godamn right to boo our fucking asses off if they are playing like shit. They should shut the hell up play ball and be happy that anybody even cheers for them after a century of losing.

  9. Dave Says:

    Current Record: 17-14 Third place in the division

    My Projected Final record: 87-75. Second or Third place in the division. They will briefly surge as everyone gets off the DL and there will be some big wins after the trade deadline, but it won’t be enough. They will finish 3-4 back in the Wild Card and all the Chicago sheep will praise the third consecutive winning season instead of focusing on what really needs to happen, a WS Championship.

  10. genrebuster Says:

    Hendry stinks to high heaven and so does Larry Rotschild (good one ernie) but I am really disappointed with Lou Piniella, too. His story is growing tiresome. As is the lack of a decent bullpen.

    Maybe someday the Cubs will have a manager who doesn’t whine or make excuses for losing.

    Maybe someday the Cubs will have a new owner.

    Maybe someday the Cubs will win a World Series.

    Maybe someday hell will freeze over.

    Maybe not.

  11. erniesarmy Says:

    “Oh yeah I forgot to mention the comments he made last week that the fans need to stop booing.. OK Piniella or I mean Dusty or who ever the fuck you are. It’s been a 101 yrs since they won it. We have every godamn right to boo our fucking asses off if they are playing like shit. They should shut the hell up play ball and be happy that anybody even cheers for them after a century of losing.”

    Absolutely spot on the mark, Sandberg23! What franchise in the history of professional sports, other than the Cubs, would tolerate this? What other fan base would support this? Real Chicago Cub fans DON’T! That is the reason real Cub fans boo, and Cubbie fans clasp their hands together and hope the Cubs can finish in third place – “Oh, goodie, our Cubbies didn’t finish last.”

    The fact that they have such a following is either a tribute to an unbelievably faithful fan base, or an indictment of what is wrong with the latest Cub fan. The ones who now go to the games to just hang out and talk on their cell phones.

  12. erniesarmy Says:

    Dave – “My Projected Final record: 87-75. Second or Third place in the division.”

    My projection for the Cubs this year: 83-79, third or fourth place in division.

    What do the rest of you guys think? Let’s see who’s right at the end of the year. I think they will finish behind the Cardinals, Brewers, and Reds this year.

  13. genrebuster Says:

    I wish Steve Stone would come back and slap some sense into Blue Lou……waaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhh

    Booooooooooooooooo Boooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo Boooooooooooooooooooooooo Boooooooooooooooooooooooooo Boooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo Booooooooooooooooooooooo…………….

    or do you prefer Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhh Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah………………….?

    I’ll take Boo.

  14. genrebuster Says:

    …..my apologies to Lou Marini for sullying his nickname.

  15. Dave Says:

    Well who knows? Cubs only 1 and a half game out of first now with tonight’s win and St. Louis loss. I’m not writing off the team yet, but the record I posted seems feasible given the performance. A winning season but not much else.

  16. morpheus Says:

    My prediction: 92 wins and the division crown. Reversion to the mean is a powerful force that works for the Cubs and against the other teams in the division.

  17. Irish Yeti Says:

    148-14. You can put that on the board

  18. E=MC2 Says:

    Yeti, You can put that up your colon. Fondly, Albert

  19. Matt Stairs Superfan Says:

    This team will not go anywhere until a new regime is in charge as GenreBuster has mentioned many times here.

    On a more positive note, that Bobby Scales is becoming one of my favorites on this team. I know he has been a career minor league player but he is doing well so far.

  20. Sandberg23 Says:

    Thanks Ernie. BTW I was at that Cubs game where Lou made those remarks about the fans booing. And yes I was one of them that was booing my ass off. That game Lou benches almost the entire squad again Lincecum and basically forfeited the game. So I was already pissed off that he did that before the game even started, so of course as they continue to get slapped around with they’re almost minor league squad against one of the best pitchers in all of baseball. I was pissed. Not at the players but I was pissed at Lou. Which I will gurantee that is why 95% of them people in that park we’re booing. I understand resting players from time to time. But to rest almost you’re entire lineup in early May and you are 4 games out of first at the time. They’re is no reason or excuse for that. That was the first game I had been too in 2 yrs and that will probably be my last for a long time again unless I get free tickets. That was an entire waste of my money and time. On top of it, it was my boys first Cubs game and I had to name off the players who we’re playing cause they didn’t know who they we’re. Thanks for that Lou.

    Matt Stairs: Scales is doing pretty well and as of right now he is better then Aaron Miles is. Lou should ride that hot hand while he has it. But of course he won’t. He will have to find a way to get his buddy Miles some at bats anyways.

    Also Memo to any Cub players, Coaches, and or Media: Stop talking about the fans!!! All you are gonna do is piss off the real Cub fans more and more. And if you end up stinking up the joint the more boos you are gonna here if this continues. Especially if they end up choking this year. They have not heard nothing yet. Knock it off and play ball. Like I said before it’s been 101 yrs. No other fan base has had to deal with what we have had to deal with.

  21. Irish Yeti Says:

    Albert,
    I would gladly take something in my colon. Your wienis by any chance?

  22. The Ghost of Leo Durocher Says:

    Boo Boo Boo Boo Boo Boo Boo Boo Boo Boo

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    Boo Boo Boo Boo Boo Boo Boo Boo Boo Boo

    Boo Boo Boo Boo Boo Boo Boo Boo Boo Boo

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    Boo Boo Boo Boo Boo Boo Boo Boo Boo Boo

    Boo Boo Boo Boo Boo Boo Boo Boo Boo Boo

    Boo

  23. Ron Santo's Legs Says:

    been a while since i been on here. same old shit for this pathetic organization.

    morpheus, i see that you are trying to be confident about this year’s team and that is all good. unfortunately, this team just doesn’t seem to be as strong as last years. it is hard to do. you may be right though. we shall see. i just don’t see it happening though.

  24. genrebuster Says:

    PATHETIC organization is right, Legs.

    What a bunch of whiners. And, no matter how poorly they perform, they continue to be paid a great deal of $$$, some more in a year than most of us will make in 30…or a lifetime!

    As Sandberg23 stated: “Knock it off and play ball. Like I said before it’s been 101 yrs. No other fan base has had to deal with what we have had to deal with.”

    No WS for the Cubbies until the “culture of losing” is eliminated. There’s a better chance of that occurring with new ownership and front office…at the very least.

  25. erniesarmy Says:

    Hey guys, is Yeti a troll, or just a drunk?

    Genre, are they any closer to being sold? What’s the status as of now?

  26. ksmc2000 Says:

    ernie, I heard that the sale might not be finalized until the 09 season is over. The fucking Tribune couldn’t run the team properly, and they can’t sell them any better.The longer this drags out means that there will probably be little or no movement at the trading deadline. This team cannot make the playoffs with the current roster.

  27. genrebuster Says:

    ksmc, Thanks for clarifying that (the “rumored” sale). How long have we been waiting now for the Cubs to be sold? Ernie, I’ll believe it when it happens…

    As usual: PATHETIC.

  28. morpheus Says:

    I think that the Cubs have absorbed some very poor play by some of last year’s top contributors and are still only a game out. That says to me that when those players revert to their longer-run levels of playing, the Cubs will easily overtake the inferior NL Central teams.

    On the sale: the Cubs are a victim of the financial crisis. Ricketts hasn’t been able to get the financing he needs to close the sale.

  29. genrebuster Says:

    I hear Mark Cuban was/is interested…perhaps he can get the financing.

    Regardless, the Tribune stinks and they don’t deserve to be defended.

    Not saying that you are defending them Morpheus…just stating an opinion that I share with many other longtime fans. I hope you are right about the Cubs… but given the current situation — and the history — I expect that we’ll be waiting until next year…again.

    uhh……………..whatever.

  30. Dave Says:

    Dempster seems to be returning to last season form. He’s pitching an absolute gem so far today. Cubs offense is squandering scoring opportunities as usual. Morpheus, you seem optimistic. I just don’t see the Cubs going on a big tear to overtake everyone in the division, or if 92 wins is all they will need for a division win.

    I like Bobby Scales too, he is showing that he belongs in the big leagues. Too bad there is no room for him. Andy Masur of the Padre’s broadcast team still believe Peavy will be traded to the Cubs before the deadline.

  31. morpheus Says:

    A lot of it is the combination of the Cubs playing relatively badly so far (and yet still only a game out!) and the other teams in the division playing over their heads… anyone’s capabile of doing it for a short while. But, just like Jason Marquis and Jo-ELLL Piniero yesterday, these teams will come back to reality. It’s not going to take a big tear, just a stream of steady baseball really.

    I’ve been a Cub fan for most of my life – I remember Kingman’s huge year in ’79 for example – and I’ve seen a lot of the crap that has beaten down many Cub fans. But it doesn’t feel like that to me anymore. Now they are not penny-pinching – they’re spending like a big-market team. There’s a ton of talent on the team. Do they have their shit moments? Sure. (NEAL COTTS) By by and large, they have more talent than anyone else in the NL Central by a wide margin. They’ll win the division.

    Also, BOBBY SCALES!

  32. morpheus Says:

    Forgive the double-post, but I just want to clarify something. For whatever reason, the Trib has started spending money like they want to win. Maybe it’s just because *they’re* not going to have to pay the $$$ out, but rather the prospective owner will. But the bottom line is, for years the Trib pinched pennies and extracted profit from the Cubs, and for that they deserve the ANGER. They’re not pinching pennies anymore, and even if that’s not because they decided to do right by the fans, we still should recognize that. I’m not defending their past actions by any means, but things have started to get better, and that should be recognized too.

  33. erniesarmy Says:

    ernie, I heard that the sale might not be finalized until the 09 season is over. The fucking Tribune couldn’t run the team properly, and they can’t sell them any better.The longer this drags out means that there will probably be little or no movement at the trading deadline. This team cannot make the playoffs with the current roster.
    …………………………………
    Thanks KSMC, really appreciate any updates since I’m out here in L.A. and all we get around here is the stinkin Dodgers! The Angels? They’re like the step child no one wanted. They do well in OC, but L.A. is most definitely Dodger town.

    Morpheus, I’ve been a Cub fan for over 40 years, and I went through the Durocher years, the Brock trade, the death of Ken Hubbs, the 84, 89, 98, 03, 07, and now the 08 collapse. I’ve had enough! I don’t care how much they spend on free agents, the suits over there don’t know baseball, period! This franchise has been run like a mom and pop store for decades, then the Tribune bought them and continued the penny pinching ways for the bottom line. How about putting money in that sorry excuse of a farm system? Player development, scouting, teaching – you know, the fundamentatls of the game that the Marlins, Red Sox, Dodgers, Cardinals, and Rays seem to teach year in and year out. It’s not an accident those franchises win, or are winning, just look at the money they put in player development. I heard the Marlins have the best scouting system in the Majors. I would love to hear that about the Cubs system. But, no, we spend billions on a strike out machine like Soriano, and a head case named Zambrano!

    I’m not saying they haven’t been trying to build a better ballclub lately, but the way they are going about it is same ole same ole, for long time Cub fans like me. I want to see youth, speed, pitching, and defense emphasized as the sin qua non of this franchise. For the past 50, 60, or who knows, it’s been get on base and wait for the home run. They have never been a team that was known for speed, pitching, defense, and fundamentally sound baseball, not in my lifetime.

    They need new ownership, someone who knows something about baseball, and someone who is not afraid to spend money on scouting and teaching in the lower levels. Let the baseball people do their jobs and stay out of their way. If Cuban is that kind of owner, then I pray he gets the team. I am sick of this teams losing environment, it’s time for a change!

  34. erniesarmy Says:

    Oh, and one other thing – last year the guy who started this blog from the FIRE DUSTY BAKER blog, our man Fro Dog, did something I have never seen a fan do, he sold all his long-time Cub memorabilia and quit as a Cub fan.

    I am not saying I agree with what Fro did, but I definitely understand. I have never heard of a fan of any team in any sport at any level do such a thing. It says a lot about the futility of this pathetic franchise that a good, committed fan of so many years as Fro, finally had enough. I mean, even ESPN Sportscenter did a whole segment on the Fro. They were flabbergasted, they couldn’t believe someone would just sell it all and quit the team. Well, believe it! And, frankly, I ‘m surprised more fans haven’t done it. I will go on record as saying, I will follow Fro if this team doesn’t get a good owner. The only reason I’m still a Cub fan today is the hope that they get a good owner. If they don’t, I’m done, because it will mean another 30 to 50 years of futility, and I can’t wait that long.

    There is no excuse in this world for this franchise to be this bad for this long, NONE!!!!

    Thanks for letting me rant.

  35. genrebuster Says:

    What happened to “DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM”?

    …just kidding Morpheus, your posts are well-stated. You, too Ernie.

    ….are you serious about ESPN doing a segment on Fro?

  36. Matt Stairs Superfan Says:

    I think I remember hearing that story somewhere too GenreBuster. I think they said Fro just kept some autographed baseballs and some stuff he had since he was a kid for financial reasons or something along those lines. I am not sure if he ever checks the comments on this site much but if he does, he should chime in and let us know.

  37. ksmc2000 Says:

    I completely understand the reasons why Fro decided to take a step back from the daily soap opera that is the Cubs. He, like most of us left all of our emotions on the table last year, with no reward. At least Fro has the surprising Blackhawks to keep him occupied for a while longer than any of us thought. The Ducks damn near pulled off the upset against Detroit. The Western Conference Finals should be very interesting. I thought the Hawks were about two years away from being in the position they find themselves in. I’m enjoying the ride. To bad the Cubs couldn’t show as much fire in the post season.

  38. Sandberg23 Says:

    Well stated blog Ernie!! I couldn’t have agreed with you more on every point that you stated.

  39. genrebuster Says:

    The Cubs–and their manager–have shown NO fire at all during the postseason since Game 4 of 2003 NLCS.

    All the money in the world won’t change the fact that Hendry has failed miserably as a GM. That may seem unfair to some (baaaaah) but like it or not, he is the GM for a team that hasn’t won a WS since 1908…or competed in one since 1945. And he is the GM who allowed Dusty — and others — to stay for far too long which has affected this organization in a negative way.

    As for last year, was anybody really shocked by the poor performance? September 2008 was a lackluster month for the Cubs. IF they get lucky and make it to the playoffs this year, maybe they’ll be peaking in September instead of coasting or backing in.

    Nothing short of a WS title is acceptable. Aim high!

  40. genrebuster Says:

    Just to be clear: I am not blaming Hendry for 101 years of abject failure. That said, he has been with the Cubs since 1995 — that’s a long time — and IMOP has had very mixed results (to say the least).

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Hendry

    Spending money doesn’t guarantee Championships, you have to be smart, too…and plan:

    Exhibit A: Florida Marlins (twice).

    It will be a very happy day for all long-suffering Cubs fans when this team is sold to a new owner….and the stench of current front office/ownership is eliminated.

    tick tock.

  41. erniesarmy Says:

    Thanks Sandberg, appreciate it.

    Yeah, Genre, I was watching ESPN last year after the debacle with the Dodgers and they had a live interview with Fro Dog on the telephone. He used his real name and told them he was through with this franchise, that that collapse was one too many.

    I too hope he comes on and tells us his story himself. It was a very good interview.

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