Everytime I try to be somewhat optimistic, the worse possible thing happens. I am not going to blame this loss solely on Hanie but he had a lot to do with it. Mike Martz made some really stupid decisions and this “good” defense that everyone talks about still gave up huge plays throughout the game and it bit them back in the ass at the end. The Bears are in trouble.
Offense: Caleb Hanie was terrible throughout the game. He threw two interceptions early and it set the tone for the game. I believe it was the second drive, Hanie ran about 12 yards for a first down. Then, Tyler fucking Clutts gets called for an unsportsmanlike penalty that pushes the Bears back. Why are some of these players so fucking stupid? Then when it looked like he was getting in a groove, Mike Martz fucks everything up when the Bears had a 2nd and 1 in the red zone by having Hanie run a play that Cutler has tried to run to no success. I don’t even know what the play is called but it involves the quarterback running to one side of the field and then trying to throw it across to the other side. STOP RUNNING THAT PLAY. IT NEVER WORKS YOU STUPID FUCK. That play in my opinion decided this game. But just to make matters worse, instead of just spiking the ball, Hanie thinks he can just wait a few seconds and then throw the ball into the ground. FUCK! FUCK! FUCK! It also didn’t help that the running game couldn’t really get going. Also, Johnny Knox and Matt Forte each dropped a couple passes. HANG ON TO THE FUCKING BALL.
Defense: I do not care if the Bears’ defense forced the Raiders to kick six field goals. The fact that they gave up huge plays all day that lead to those field goals are unacceptable. Then on the drive that the Raiders scored a touchdown on, Tim Jennings was beat terribly on a 47 yard reception by Lewis fucking Murphy that eventually lead to that score.
Special Teams: Robbie Gould hit two field goals. That was about it. Also, why in every fucking game is there at least one holding or illegal block in the back penalty by the Bears’ special teams? Chris fucking Steltz was called for one today. STOP DOING THAT. You have to give credit to Raiders’ punted Shane Lechler and kicker Sebastian Janikowski. The Bears had shitty field position all day and Hester couldn’t do shit.
Here are the Bears sitting at 7-4 with the Chiefs coming up next week at home. Not counting the eventual loss against the Packers on Christmas Day, the Bears must win three out of the four games they have to make the playoffs. I no longer will be counting on that but rather, rooting for the teams that are competing for a Wild Card spot to lose. However we put it, Caleb Hanie is the only option for the Bears. Now, I don’t feel so good.
November 27, 2011 at 7:00 pm
Fro….This is the reason I got so pissed at Smith when he said “this wasn’t a must win game” 4-5 weeks ago. Every game is important. You can get away with saying that shit AFTER you clinch a playoff spot. Rest assured, this team isn’t going to goddamned playoffs. What’s the point if Cutler can’t go?
That being said, this loss is on the coaching staff. The players made some mistakes, sure, but let’s face it. The Raiders aren’t that fucking good. The Bears should have won. Smith and Martz had stupid pills for Thanksgiving dinner, and they’re still eating the leftovers today. Why are these stupid, retarded motherfuckers still employed? Because the old bitch Virginia McCaskey is still sucking oxygen, and she is in fucking love with that bald headed shitbag. So you could pin this loss on the old bitch as well.
November 27, 2011 at 7:09 pm
Did you think Hanie would hit the ground running in his first career NFL start? I didn’t. The offense did right itself in the second half and they would’ve won the game if the defense remained as tough as they were in the first half. Keep the faith dammit. You whine worse than my older sister did when she was out of half and half for her morning coffee.
November 27, 2011 at 7:18 pm
Keep the faith? Keep the faith in what? In Smith and Martz ever getting their goddamned heads out of their fucking asses? IT WON’T FUCKING HAPPEN NUMBNUTS. Keep the faith? Jesus fucking Christ, you sound like a typical fucking idiot Cubs fan. Fuck that bullshit. And I am not whining. I’m fucking pissed. Don’t fucking sit there and tell me all the things they did right. They lost. They were never in the game. When they lose like they did today, nobody did anything right. Save that type of bullshit for the retards at BlreedCubbieBlue.
November 27, 2011 at 7:27 pm
I was committing on Fro’s post NOT YOURS. I don’t respect what you have to say about football to bother reading let alone replying to whatever you have to say.
November 27, 2011 at 7:30 pm
Woulda coulda shoulda……
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November 27, 2011 at 7:36 pm
You mean like how you just did? Is it just me you don’t respect or does that apply to everyone here? If you have no respect for anybody here why do you post here? As I said before, you would be better served posting at shitholes like BleedCubbieBlue, along with all the other assclowns.
November 27, 2011 at 8:18 pm
Payton,
I appreciate you posting here but I will disagree. I am not “whining” about Hanie’s play. I am, like Chucky, pissed off that he sucked ass along with the play calling. Whining would be something like “Why is Hanie in there?” or “Why can’t the Bears have someone better at quarterback?”. Regardless, I have tried to have this thing called “faith” but the problem is, it doesn’t exist.
Chucky,
I cannot disagree with you one bit. You and I had some debate about this a couple years back about Lovie Smith and him being a “good” coach. It seems like when it’s on the line, Lovie and the crew do not succeed. We can beat the dead horse on how he has had two legit chances to win a Super Bowl and failed.
The issue is that in the NFL, a Super Bowls are won in large part because of coaching. You can’t win a Super Bowl in spite of coaching. For Lovie Smith, he just isn’t good enough along with Mike Martz. Let’s not forget about the catalyst of this failure in Jerry Angelo. Fuck that guy.
November 27, 2011 at 10:07 pm
Then Lovie laughing and giggling with the Raiders player, take the games seriously, Well the Mccaskeys are the real root of the problems.
November 27, 2011 at 10:34 pm
Fro, I don’t see why you would get so emotional about a Bear team which you already think will lose against the Packers on Christmas night with or without Cutler. That’s defeatist enough to make them irrelevant whether they make the post season or not.
I do think they will make the playoffs with at least three more regular season wins (Chiefs,Seahawks,Vikings) .
The Lions will continue to suffer from their QB’s own broken finger because they have no real ground game.
The Eagles are done (can you imagine how their fans are feeling? as recent as three weeks ago, Steve Young was saying they’d be in the NFC championship. In fact ESPN collectively sounds like Eagle cheerleaders almost to the point where you can find Michael Vick’s DNA on Chris Berman’s and Mike Tirico’s chin.).
The best of all (because i hate them) the Giants are primed for their trademark second half of season collapse. They’ll be 6-6 before long.
Who’s left? Falcons?
Assuming they get in with a 10-6 record….what do you expect them to do when they get there?
Right now, It feels like the ’77 season. Bears barely make the post season for the first time in 14 years and get cut to shreds by a team that’s just simply better than them, the Cowboys.
November 27, 2011 at 10:37 pm
Hanie was NOT terrible. Absolutely not.
What we saw were the general defects in this Bears team.
Even with Cutler, the Bears might have lost this game.
The last pick Cutler threw was bad play calling. Martz should have never called that. Ugh.
Hanie did about as well as someone who never started a game before would do. You’re gonna have timing problems with the receivers. You’re gonna learn how quick you have to get the ball downfield. You need game experience to go through your reads.
Speaking of that, the Bears O-line was so fucking inconsistent.
Sometimes, Hanie had adequate time to throw but other times he had about half a second. If THAT doesn’t show how badly that team needs a LT and another guard, NOTHING will. Does anyone recall seeing the pass over the middle that Hanie threw to Forte in the third quarter. #70 Williams–our new no-talent guard–got not ONE HAND on the Raider tackle who went RIGHT BY him on the way to Hanie. Hanie got the pass off but not before getting hammered. The various Bears penalties did not help, either.
The touchdown passes, the 80-yard bomb to Knox are all good signs for Hanie and the team. They mean more than the interceptions.
Here’s the real problem: defense. The Bears went from sacking Palmer to letting him complete pass after pass. WTF? And the Raiders kept getting long running plays.
The problem with the Cover 2 is that you MUST get pressure on the other team’s QB up the middle. You saw it today–when they did, the Raiders did nothing. When they didn’t, Palmer hit the open man ALL the time. The Bears do NOT have a real, dominant, quality 3-technique tackle. They need one BADLY.
Lovie’s philosophy is you give up the short passes as long as they don’t score. Bad philosophy.
What that does is two very bad things. It often keeps the other team’s offense on the field TOO long, eating up time on the clock that YOUR team might need later, even if the opposition only gets a field goal out of it. It also keeps your defense on the field too long, tiring them out. Both these things happened today.
Hanie is not the problem. He’ll get better. The purpose of this blog is to get rid of the Bears real problem, Jerry Angelo, who CANNOT keep the team stocked with the proper talent, like elite-level offensive and defensive linemen. The Bears will no nowhere until they fire Angelo and find the Theo Epstein of football GMs.
November 27, 2011 at 11:27 pm
Joe, I noticed the inconsistency in the offensive line too and this made Hanie look alot like Cutler did when he wasn’t sure if they’d keep the pass rush from killing him or not. This goes back to the point I was making. The offensive line was becoming serviceable when Chris Williams was playing but now they can’t keep a blitz in check.
This team is just lacking talent in key areas because of lack of depth, injury. whatever. Martz made some head scratching play calls but he can’t make Forte and Williams make catches, Tice can only teach the line what to do on plays and work on opponents tendencies but he can’t be out there with them.
Bears are lucky to be where they are right now and they’d be better if Angelo was an average (instead of awful) GM and the draft pick guru the Bear PR machine likes to pretend that he is.
November 28, 2011 at 9:12 am
How dare that old hag like a guy that is 3rd all time among victories as a Bears coach! The gall!
November 28, 2011 at 10:57 am
November 28, 2011 at 11:47 am
Our friend Yeti here has a problem with stats.
3rd all time in victories as Bears’ head coach? And how many Super Bowl rings has he had to win but didn’t because of his inept coaching? The answer to that would be two and yes, they lost those games because of him. No stat is going to change my mind that.
November 28, 2011 at 11:48 am
There’s Yeti with his weekly drive-by bullshit comment for the week. Thanks numbnuts.
November 28, 2011 at 12:05 pm
I know the one, but what’s the second SB they lost due to Lovie’s coaching?
November 28, 2011 at 1:50 pm
Also, to whatever dude said the Bears lose this with Cutler, please give Lovie those stupid pills back
November 28, 2011 at 2:35 pm
Two legit chances meaning the Super Bowl in 2007 and last year, when he another shot to get there. Are you finished now dissecting every little thing?
November 28, 2011 at 7:47 pm
A germane question for those who want Lovie to go after 2013. (There is no chance he will be gone before his contract ends). Who is on your shortlist to replace him?
November 29, 2011 at 8:48 am
I’d take a look at Bill Cowher. I’m not sure if he’d be interested. I was actually hoping the Bears would give him a shot before they hired Lovie Baker.
November 29, 2011 at 10:58 am
In this, https://firejerryangelo.org/2011/01/27/moving-on/, you said “If the secondary was just decent in the first half against the Packers, the Bears are probably playing in the Super Bowl this year.” But now youre saying the Lovies Stupid Pill prescription kept them out of it.. odd.
And in the comments there, you put the 07 SB on the secondary: ” Don’t forget the “I-Pass” defense that you love so much costs the Bears in the Super Bowl in 2007 when Tillman (Fuck you) and Manning decided that Reggie Wayne was fine running down the field all alone.”
Yes, yes, I know. I’m nitpicking. That may be fair, but the fact of the matter is that you tend to not understand where the deficiencies lie. Lovie is ok. He isnt all worldly like Belichek or something, but he is low in the list of problems. A loss is typically a team loss, as opposed to it being on only the DBs, head coach, or offensive coordinator.
And why do you always say “decide to let (such and such) run free” or “decide to play defense”? It suggests that your truly believe that these guys just elect to not cover someone, or play defense. They play the D called, and sometimes they fuck up an assignment, not “decide not to cover (teams best receiver)”
November 29, 2011 at 12:41 pm
You are nitpicking. Because in spite of what you just quoted me months ago saying, I also put in those posts that Todd Fucking Collins was the backup quarterback and he wasted two series before being mercifully taken out of the game for Hanie. Who’s fault is that? I cannot believe that I am still trying to tell you this shit when all you have to do is read all the crap I have posted in those posts.
And as far as the Super Bowl goes, if you remember correctly, the Bears stopped running the football after Thomas Jones’ long run in the first half of the game. Who’s fault is that? Well, Ron Turner calls the plays but Lovie Smith is still the head coach and has the final say.
Just so I don’t feel like I am writing a novel here, let’s fast forward to this season. The Bears are 7-4 and they were just done a favor by the Saints kicking the shit out of the Giants Monday night so they are still have a spot in the Wild Card. I am not going to blame Lovie for the Cutler injury obviously. But the fact that he let Martz call that fucking play that never fucking works on Hanie’s third interception was horrendous. No decent coach would let that happen. Even when I saw Cutler try to run that play the two or three times this season, he ended up overthrowing the receiver so what makes Martz and Smith think Hanie can execute that play?
What about the offensive line? Sure. They’ve lost two starters. But why can’t Lovie tell Jerry fucking Angelo to go out and find another lineman? Who gives a shit who it is because to be honest, Frank Omiyale and Edwin Williams are terrible.
Are you telling me there isn’t one free agent lineman out there who is waiting for a team to sign him? Hanie was running for his life on a few of those plays Sunday while I later saw highlights of Matt Hasselbeck having a good 10 seconds to throw the damn ball. While the Titans may not be as good of a team either, at least their line is decent. Injuries aren’t an excuse. The Packers had about 20 guys last year on injured reserve and I think they did alright.
To be honest, I am sick and tired of explaining this shit to you. Either you get it now after I have explained it for the 50th time or are you just too damn stupid to realize that there is blame to go all around for the failures of this team.
November 29, 2011 at 12:56 pm
Fro..Remember this. Lovie is a serviceable coach.
That’s all you really need to know.
November 29, 2011 at 1:02 pm
Good offensive linemen grow on trees
November 29, 2011 at 5:15 pm
HAHAHAHA I love reading how people think Cowher is a good coach. The Steelers are the best free agency era team in the league and he STILL barely won a single Super Bowl (which they’d lose if the Seahawks didn’t fuck themselves over at the end of the first half. That man is laughably overrated.
November 29, 2011 at 7:53 pm
Payton i suggest you get your facts straight on the steelers tje magority of there roster has been drafted buy them…ben mendenhall hampton woodley sanders wallace miller hood pouncey polamalu kiesel….find me another team that has more players drafted and developed….nice try
November 29, 2011 at 8:01 pm
Name all the free agents the steelers have signed
November 29, 2011 at 9:45 pm
Just how is Cowher overrated and Lovie Smith not? Seriously, stop the bullshit arguing just for the sake of arguing.
And just when the fuck did I say he was a good coach?
November 29, 2011 at 11:16 pm
I think Pickett and das Yeti are over-rated.
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November 30, 2011 at 9:49 am
Brian Billick
with Ron Jenkins as qb coach/oc
http://www.youtube.com/user/TopGunQBAcademy
November 30, 2011 at 6:08 pm
Payton i asked you a question
November 30, 2011 at 10:23 pm
Woulda Coulda Shoulda.
At the end of the day, the Steelers won that SB…and the Seahawks lost.
December 1, 2011 at 1:18 am
Robert, I wasn’t saying the STEELERS were overrated or poorly managed, quite the opposite, I am saying BILL COWHER IS OVERRATED because the Steelers have been well managed since the start of the free agency era.
Their downfalls they’ve had since the 70’s was Chuck Noll’s reluctance to let go of his glory days players years past their prime. He admitted as much. The other was believing in Neil O’Donnell and trying to bank on Kordell Stewart. Those were two examples of Cowher’s brilliance.
Since you didn’t mention Cowher, I will just advise you to PLEASE READ MY ENTIRE POSTS BEFORE COMMENTING.
My point is LOVIE SMITH, HELL! WAYNE FONTES can win a Super Bowl with the Steelers. If Cowher were the coach people think he is, they would have won at least three during his tenure.
December 1, 2011 at 2:37 am
Neil o donnell took us to a superbowl kordell stewart took us to two afc championship games ….Cowher was a great coach would he do as well in another orginazation….dont know ….jimmy johnson failed with the dolphins….after all the steelers have the motto the owners own the scouts run the draft the coaches coach and the players play…would that happen with the bears who knows