Bears hire Bates; Keith Bogus butt hurt about release from Bulls.

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1. The Chicago Bears hired Jeremy Bates to be their quarterbacks coach. Fire Jerry Angelo reader Joe has been lobbying for Bates to be hired in these last few months and he has received his wish. I think we all should be happy that this happened. It’s letting us know that Jay Cutler is the one calling the shots and that’s the way it should be. The combination of Jeremy Bates and Mike Tice taking care of this offense is fine by me. Now, it’s about new Bears general manager Phil Emery listening to Cutler and the coaches about who they should bring in as far as talent is concerned. Not to beat a dead horse, but for whatever year in a row, the Bears need help on offensive line as well as the wide receivers. Then defense is whole other story with them needing a linebacker, cornerback and safety. These problems have been piling over the years and may not all get resolved in one offseason. It’s all up to Emery now come the draft in April. Whatever is left over for needs after the draft can be taken care of with proper free-agent signings or trades.

2. I was doing my best to let this next topic go but I couldn’t help it. Keith Bogans Bogus has pissed me off again. When I heard he was signed by the Nets last week, I simply thought “good for him.” Now, this sorry excuse for a professional basketball player decided to piss and moan about the Bulls releasing him before the start of the season. The sorry excuse for a professional basketball player said that getting released by the Bulls was a “slap in the face”.

You know what’s a slap in the face Keith? When you are a starting shooting guard for the Chicago Bulls for all 82 games, yet you only scored like three points a game. Maybe if you actually scored more points, the Bulls wouldn’t have released you. Besides, Richard Hamilton hurt is better than you healthy. Dickhead.

Your thoughts in the comments section.

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42 Responses to “Bears hire Bates; Keith Bogus butt hurt about release from Bulls.”

  1. Tony Says:

    I’ve been told the Dwayne Bowe is a FA. The Bears should make a move for this guy, who is like Brandon Marshal, but better. If they can draft another WR, we’ll be in good shape on Offense. Which, to me, only needs a few holes to plug (WR, another OL).

    Although comming from KC, don’t think Phil will have some pull. As the Cubs could not get Prince with their new coach.

  2. Fro Dog Says:

    I think our friend Tony is high.

  3. chucky Says:

    So, the offensive line is just fine? Oh boy.

    I’m not sure how to feel about Jeremy Bates. It may or may not work. Who knows? My opinion is tempered by the fact that Lovie Baker is head of this asylum. Any success the Bears have had under him have happened DESPITE Lovie, not because of him. The sane people here know this. The Bears will be get any better until he’s shown the fucking door.

    As for Keith Bogus….fuck you bitch. THAT is a slap in the face. Not the Bulls cutting your sorry, dumb ass loose. Remember that, dickbag! And go fuck your mother.

  4. chucky Says:

    The Bears will not get any better until he’s shown the fucking door.

    Oh boy!

  5. Fro Dog Says:

    Damnit Chucky. Get your head on straight!

  6. Tony Says:

    Chucky,

    He said Mike Tice is good as an O-Line coach, I agree. He does great with the talent he has.

    Also, Spencer was a good pickup, Garza is solid, and a healthy Carimi should be a-ok. Add a decent Williams and the Bears are really just one away from a solid O-line without Martz jacking it up.

    Fro Dog, what about my comments leads you to believe that I am high? They need a big play WR that can catch. Dwayne Bowe and Jackson are the only ones out there, the rest are speed WR, witch we don’t need.

    If they can get a FA O-lineman and a WR, they can focus on Defense in the Draft.

  7. Fro Dog Says:

    Tony,

    It’s nothing personal my friend. I just noticed your comment from the previous thread and it seems that you believe Lovie is not at fault for these failures. Well, I will once again remind you that Lovie Smith has been here since 2004 and has zero Super Bowl rings to show for it. When the Bears have had a legitimate chance to win the Super Bowl in 2007 as well as getting to another one in 2011, he has failed miserably.

    I don’t need to go through every detail once again but all I will say is Todd fucking Collins and Caleb Hanie. If you want to know these details along with others for my case of firing Lovie Smith, I invite you read some of the many articles in the archives of this site over the years.

    With regards to your post above, Brandon Marshall is a better receiver than Dwayne Bowe. Besides, Cutler probably wants Marshall more than Bowe because of their past. For now, anything Cutler wishes will be the Bears’ command.

  8. Tony Says:

    I understand. But 31 other teams have no SuperBowl rings and, more impotantly….

    The person responsible for Todd Collins, Caleb Haney, has already been fired. It’s a difference of opinion on GM v. Coach responsibilities.

    Conversely, Mike Singletary sucked as a Head Coach. The 49’ers brought Jim in, and presto,with almost the same exact team, one play from the SuperBowl.

    The Bears are a different story. You fire Lovie Smith, I’m not sure the replacement could do any better.

    Is Devin Hester and Jonny Knox going to suddenly become No. 1 recievers with a new coach?

    Lovie’s responsibilities is to manage what he has, same as Tice. I have not seen one credible report that he drafted Haney or wanted Collins, or these other losers.

  9. chucky Says:

    Lovies responsibilities are to put his players in the best possible position to succeed.. Not just “manage”. Get off that kick. If it was just to manage the talent, any of us could do it.

    Tice did do a good job with what he had to work with, I’ll grant you. But that doesn’t mean the line doesn’t need to be dealt with. It does. Cutler has been running for his goddamned life the second he got off the plane from Denver. The fact he’s had only a broken thumb and a concussion is testiment to how tough he is. They NEED to get Cutler some better protection from the line.

    This team has done business completely ass-backwards. You don’t fire the GM, then have head coach a part of the interview process. Add to that the fact that the new GM must retain Lovie? WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT SHIT???????? You’ll just handcuffed your new GM to a fencepost. When you fire a GM, you should clean house completely and replace the head coach as well. Allow the new GM to hire his own head coach. But not the Bears. The old bitch has a boner for this arrogant prick. The old bitch has as much business owning a football team as I do running the pentagon.

    Devin Hester will NEVER be a #1 reciever, for any team (with brains), or under any head coach (again, with brains), and Johnny Knox may end up having mental issues and not ever be the same again. He won’t be a #1 either. I’m all for a Brandon Marshall, or Dwayne Bowe getting signed. Personally, I’d prefer Marshall, based on his history with Cutler. But, like I said, it’s all meaningless if the Bears don’t touch that O-line. So Tony, I’m afraid you arguements don’t hold water.

    Next seasons early prediction is this: Depending on what Phil Emery does with the draft and with FA, they’ll go 9-7. They will look like shit in the process, having to win 3 out of the last 4 to get there. And most likely, Lovie Baker will get another contract based on winning the last 3 of 4 games, but more importantly, based on the old bitches boner for him. But the fact that he barely coached them to a 6-6 record the first 12 games will never be mentioned. So guys, we’re in for a LONG haul here if we decide to still give a fuck about this shitty outfit.

  10. Tony Says:

    You are contrite with the definition of the word “manage” which can be found here;

    http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/manage

    No, not everyone can “manage” anything. I was a Manager for a Cable company and also retail. And if your around 30 you too have met Morons in Management.

    Managing a football game and the players involves the following;

    (1) Making sure the players are motivated/disciplined

    (2) Making the right game-time decisions

    (3) “Coaching up” the players you have

    Noone argues that Lovie Motivates his players and that the Players respect, and play for Lovie. A fact that Bears ownership is aware.

    Game-time decisions are another matter. There have been a couple of questionable calls, but nothing out-of-line to reach the level of incompetence.

    “You don’t fire the GM, then have head coach a part of the interview process.”

    That didn’t happen. You must of been listening to the Score. Lovie Smith’s “involvement” was a quick 15 minute talk with the GM who visited his office to say Hi. I’ll wager this happens all the time, regardless if the Coach will be fired or not.

    Second, the decision to keep Lovie for one more year did not prevent the canidates to come in. And, many GM’s have kept their coach for one year at least. It’s VERY COMMON.

    Brandon Marshall probably will not happen. Same age as Bowe, has around $26 million left on his contract. The Dolphins gave up, I believe two no. 2’s and would likely want the same in return. With so many FA WR’s the Bears are likely to sign one than to waste Draft Picks.

    I also believe the O-line has to get better. Nothing in my comments suggest otherwise. I’m just saying is that they are really one guy away from being solid. Williams, Carimi, Spencer, Garza are good O-linemen. We just need that fifth guy.

    Keep in mind that Martz system was another factor for the amount of sacks, which even the Rams with Orlando Pace had issues.

  11. Fro Dog Says:

    Tony,

    I am doing my best to keep this thing in line, but here is one of your quotes that most of us here will disagree on:

    “Game-time decisions are another matter. There have been a couple of questionable calls, but nothing out-of-line to reach the level of incompetence.”

    Only a couple of questionable calls? He has made many questionable calls. Challenge flags, personnel decisions, etc. This has happened countless times.

    You also mentioned that they are just one offensive lineman away. Not really. I am not counting on Williams or Carimi to be healthy. And if someone wasn’t injured before, they can be so this next season. The Bears need minimum two or three lineman they must draft or pick up through free agency. This team is worse than it looks right now.

  12. chucky Says:

    Jesus fucking Christ! Are you really that fucking stupid?

    Managing a football game and the players involves the following;

    (1) Making sure the players are motivated/disciplined

    (2) Making the right game-time decisions

    (3) “Coaching up” the players you have
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    (1) Making sure the players are motivated/disciplined

    As I said in the previous thread, Lovie fails here. With all the stupid missed tackles, blown plays, players standing around with their thumbs up their asses far, far too many times make Lovie a good motivater? Maybe by you, but not by me. Next.

    (2) Making the right game-time decisions.

    Shitty clock management, shitty decisions on when the throw a challenge flag, shitty player decisions (Devin Hester as a #1 WR). Where do I stop? Next.

    (3) “Coaching up” the players you have

    What in the goddamned hell is that. Just how do you know this? Did you see it? All I’ve EVER seen from asshole is the same stoic, blank look on his face. I honestly think his face would crack if he smiled. I’m just saying. I don’t give a fuck if he never smiles again. Next.
    ———————————————————————————

    Noone argues that Lovie Motivates his players and that the Players respect, and play for Lovie. A fact that Bears ownership is aware.

    I do. So does everybody else here. Next.
    ——————————————————————————–

    Game-time decisions are another matter. There have been a couple of questionable calls, but nothing out-of-line to reach the level of incompetence.

    See my #2. Sound incompetant to me. Does it to anyone else here? Next.
    ——————————————————————————–

    “You don’t fire the GM, then have head coach a part of the interview process.”

    That didn’t happen. You must of been listening to the Score. Lovie Smith’s “involvement” was a quick 15 minute talk with the GM who visited his office to say Hi. I’ll wager this happens all the time, regardless if the Coach will be fired or not.

    Were you there to watch it happen. You’re goddamn right I listened to the Score. I wasn’t at Halas Hall. The hosts have a lot of reliable sources to go to. I would think they probably know something the rest of us don’t. What are your sources Tony? And if you think it happens all the time, please name a few.
    ——————————————————————————–

    Second, the decision to keep Lovie for one more year did not prevent the canidates to come in. And, many GM’s have kept their coach for one year at least. It’s VERY COMMON.

    Again, name a few. And convince me it was the right thing to do.
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    Brandon Marshall probably will not happen. Same age as Bowe, has around $26 million left on his contract. The Dolphins gave up, I believe two no. 2′s and would likely want the same in return. With so many FA WR’s the Bears are likely to sign one than to waste
    Draft Picks.

    I simply meant that I thought he’d be an improvement. I’m not willing to trust Emery yet. I know this was an Angelo signing, but I’m still pissed about Roy Williams. If Emery proves he can do better than Angelo, which shouldn’t be hard to do, then I’ll trust him.

    I also believe the O-line has to get better. Nothing in my comments suggest otherwise. I’m just saying is that they are really one guy away from being solid. Williams, Carimi, Spencer, Garza are good O-linemen. We just need that fifth guy.

    Keep in mind that Martz system was another factor for the amount of sacks, which even the Rams with Orlando Pace had issues.

    They are a long way away from “just needing a fifth guy”. Are you fucking blind? Cutler has been getting killed the entire time he’s been here. Yes, Martz was a big part of that problem. But not all. The line sucks. It’s needs to be upgraded at all positions. Why is that so fucking hard to see? Is it because it’s the Bears, and you are not capable of critical thought in regards to them. This team has a shitload of problems, not just in player personnel, but in coaching, and in upper management. The sooner people understand this, the better. Until then, enjoy your mediocre team. I’ll continue my bitching about it.

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  14. Yeti Says:

    Chucky would bitch about the Bears if they went 18-1

  15. Tony Says:

    I think you are right. They will demand Lovie’s job if he gets no Superbowl next year. Wow, Christ all-mighty.

    Let’s begin with the first, outrageous comment about game management. If you have played football (in real life, although I find it difficult in Madden). Managing a clock and making the “right decisions” is very difficult under pressure.

    Even in the superbowl, Bill Belicheck and Tom Coughlin both came under scruitiny. But the point is, there was no decision that single handely cost the Bears any game. None of Lovies “Gaffes” made headline news. Compare with Coach Garrett in Dallas and Mike Smith in Antlanta, not to mention a few others.

    Devin Hester as a WR – How do you know if this was Lovie or Jerry, and who cares. They gave it a shot, it didn’t work. Plenty of teams – do you think Jim Harbaugh is kicking his ass right now letting Williams return punts? No, because HE HAD NO OTHER CHOICE. His guy was injured. Who else are the Bears going to use at WR.

    Smith is 5th worse in Challenges, but it doesn’t matter, like he said;

    ‘‘Even if you lose a challenge, you look at the end of the game,’’ he said. ‘‘Did you need the timeout at the end of the game? If you didn’t, it’s no biggie if you miss it. You can’t carry them over. They don’t let you keep accumulating them.’’

    Therfore, your cherry-picking over Challenges, means nothing. Show me one game where, if he didn’t use the challenge, that extra timeout would have won the game.

    Yes, we only need to pick up one more Lineman, wasting three draft picks/FA signings on Linemen – is insane. I understand in your world we should have 8 starting Offensive Linemen with $20 milliion a year salaries, but reality dictates we need one, because we cannot sign every free agent out there, this isn’t the Yankees.

    —————————————————————————

    “Were you there to watch it happen. You’re goddamn right I listened to the Score. I wasn’t at Halas Hall. The hosts have a lot of reliable sources to go to. I would think they probably know something the rest of us don’t. What are your sources Tony? And if you think it happens all the time, please name a few.”

    Ah-huh. Thanks for taking my bait. Obviously you didn’t listen hard enough last Monday (maybe it was Tuesday) when the Bears Director of Communications (believe Scott Hagel) was interviewed on 670 and stated;

    – The interview for the new GM took about 15 hours in total.

    – He asked a few interview questions, Phil came with a laptop and presentation and laid out his plans to build a franchise.

    – All canidates STOPPED at Lovie Smith’s office to chat FOR A FEW MINUTES.

    – Lovie Smith had no involvement in the Questioning, and stated he liked every Cannidate.

    Listen at:

    http://chicago.cbslocal.com/audio/986-670-the-score-interviews/scott-hagel-on-boers-and-bernstein/

    Regarding the rest of your assumptions and comments, they are frivolous and there is no need to respond to them. The fact is Lovie would have probably stayed anyway, and the Bears got the GM they were going to get – with or without “the restriction”. And your football IQ is the same consistancy as the Jello in my fridge.

    Check Please 🙂

  16. chucky Says:

    Yeti….You’re right. I would bitch if the Bears went 18-1. Especially that one loss was the fucking Super Bowl, numbnuts.

    ——————————————————————————

    Tony….Thanks for proving your fucking stupidity. I’ll “cherry pick” some more of your stupid bullshit.

    1. Managing a clock and making the “right decisions” is very difficult under pressure.

    If he can’t handle with the pressure, he doesn’t deserve the job. This is goddamn football, not brain surgery.

    2. None of Lovies “Gaffes” made headline news.

    It was talked about for many, many hours on BOTH radio stations. You are aware Chicago has two sports stations, right? Did you expect it to make headlines like the republican debates? You’ll have a long ass time waiting for that to happen.

    3. Devin Hester as a WR – How do you know if this was Lovie or Jerry, and who cares.

    I don’t know. I also heard NOTHING about Lovie objecting to the idea. Did you? And “Who cares”? As a fan, I CARE. You claim to be a fan too. You don’t care? Jesus fucking Christ. Some fan you are. And I DON’T CARE what Jim Harbaugh does in San Fransisco. Why do you?

    4. Smith is 5th worse in Challenges, but it doesn’t matter, like he said;

    ‘‘Even if you lose a challenge, you look at the end of the game,’’ he said. ‘‘Did you need the timeout at the end of the game? If you didn’t, it’s no biggie if you miss it. You can’t carry them over. They don’t let you keep accumulating them.’’

    5th worst out of 32 head coaches in the league. And you’re defending this fucking idiot. Wow. Just…wow.

    And that quote just goes with his collection of stupid, idiotic comments he’s made. Remember what he said after the Lions beat the Bears? “The game wasn’t a must win game for us.” Does he still think that? If he does, he should be fired…right fucking now.

    5. Therfore, your cherry-picking over Challenges, means nothing. Show me one game where, if he didn’t use the challenge, that extra timeout would have won the game.

    OK, I can’t think of one at the moment off the top of my head. Maybe later with me looking at those games again. But let’s take a look his record with timeouts. Is that OK with you?

    Bears vs. Chiefs. Smith called timeout with 2:11 and 2:06 left in the first half, only to see the Chiefs pick up the third down, then run 10 more plays and score the game’s only touchdown on a 38-yard Hail Mary on the final play of the first half in a 10-3 victory.

    Bears vs. Lions (Monday Night game) Without getting into play by play detail, and actually, this does include a challenge.
    A) Timeout #1 @ 5:40
    B) Timeout #2 @ 0:15
    C) Matt Forte no gain (On 4th down). Chicago challenged the first down ruling and the play was upheld. Timeout #3 @ 0:06

    Not a big deal, right. IT WAS THE FIRST FUCKING QUARTER!!!!!! This all occurred on one drive as well. You want to tell me again that wasn’t bad? Or how much pressure Lovie was under? That game was October 10th. It wasn’t the goddamn Super Bowl. All of this falls under time management(yes, there is that) that we all have bitched about.

    6. Yes, we only need to pick up one more Lineman, wasting three draft picks/FA signings on Linemen – is insane.

    So protecting your franchise quarterback is insane? Maybe “in your world”. Not mine.

    7. Ah-huh. Thanks for taking my bait. Obviously you didn’t listen hard enough last Monday (maybe it was Tuesday) when the Bears Director of Communications (believe Scott Hagel) was interviewed on 670 and stated;
    – The interview for the new GM took about 15 hours in total.
    – He asked a few interview questions, Phil came with a laptop and presentation and laid out his plans to build a franchise.
    – All canidates STOPPED at Lovie Smith’s office to chat FOR A FEW MINUTES.
    – Lovie Smith had no involvement in the Questioning, and stated he liked every Cannidate
    Sorry, I do have a job. And I can’t listen 24/7. But I do listen when I can. Sounds like propaganda to me. How many times has Lovie stood up and outright fucking lied. I think the bastard is a pathological liar personally. Doesn’t matter if it’s about injuries, or philosophy, or game time bone headed decisions he made. If you believe Hagel, you’re more gullible than I thought.
    8. Regarding the rest of your assumptions and comments, they are frivolous and there is no need to respond to them.
    Translation…I don’t have a comeback for you. Enough said. And while my “football IQ is the same consistancy as the Jello in my fridge”, it’s still well above yours. And while you try to think of something witty to say back to me, try taking some spelling lessons before you come back. Your misspellings REALLY make you look like a goddamn idiot.

  17. Tony Says:

    Picking on grammar and misspellings is the a typical troll argument. For example, you misspelled San Francisco. That doesn’t mean that you are an idiot.

    Your bitching about timeouts. What if the D got an interception after those timeouts, then he looks like a Genius. Which gets to my point, everyone makes mistakes.

    Bill Belichick in 2009 was called out on the carpet for a timeout and going for it on fourth down. Give me a fucking break. Nobody has a fucking crystal ball where they can say, let’s not call a timeout.

    I don’t care about the radio stations in Chicago – they analyze everything. They analyzed Tom Coughlin and Ahmed Bradshaw on ESPN1000.

    The Chiefs Game- The Bears did not lose because Lovie Smith called a timeout, grow the fuck up. They lost because no. 47 (fuck-face) batted the ball down and Caleb Haney/Moron Barber blows.

    The Lions Game – Back the fuck up.

    Reality – There is something called a Salary Cap. Hate to break it to you, but I don’t see the Bears signing three OL. They need only one.

    “I don’t know. I also heard NOTHING about Lovie objecting to the idea. Did you? And “Who cares”? As a fan, I CARE. You claim to be a fan too. You don’t care? Jesus fucking Christ. Some fan you are. And I DON’T CARE what Jim Harbaugh does in San [Francisco]. Why do you?”

    If you had the same WR’s that the Bears had in 2008-2010, you’re telling me you would not try Hester as a WR? FYI, Mike Tice is planning to use Hester as a slot reciever.

    I can guarantee you Chucky, if you were a Head Coach, you would be criticized for blown Challenges and Timeouts.

    SHOW ME ONE FUCKING Head Coach in the NFL that HAS NOT been called out for bad timeouts.

    Watch, I’ll pick a random name….Ron Rivera. Oh boy, these comments are from brainless fucks who have never played a down of football:

    Rivera takes blame for costly timeout which led to a key Saints field ..
    http://www.carolinagrowl.com/index.php?…rivera…timeout...

    Carolina Panthers: Ron Rivera Is Not Head-Coaching Material …
    bleacherreport.com/…/886914-carolina-panthers-ron-rivera-is-not-he…

    Oct 10, 2011 – Ron Rivera waited a long time to get a head-coaching job in the NFL . … Rivera decided not to use his timeouts and save time for the offense to …

    Oct 10, 2011 – Time and video analysis didn’t make Panthers coach Ron Rivera feel any better about the timeout he called just before the end of the first half …

    Scumbag Ron Rivera – calls timeout with 02 in first half allowing …

    Ron Rivera Still Doesn’t Understand How Timeouts
    oddsandendzones.blogspot.com/…/ron-rivera-still-doesnt-understand…

    Oct 10, 2011 – Ron Rivera Still Doesn’t Understand How Timeouts Work and More Tidbits from Week 5. Can we have just one tough running play without the …

    Great minds think a like Chucky. Let’s try a another random coach…….Ok, Sean Payton:

    Not as many articles, five separate bitching about timeouts.

    Let’s see….Jim Schwartz….Yes, the same mindless fan rage “Fire him, he doesn’t know how to call timeouts”.

    ———————————————————

    I made my point. Every Coach faces scrutiny for how they use their timeouts. It means nothing.

    None of Lovie’s timeouts can be said to have cost the game.

  18. chucky Says:

    More bullshit. Didn’t take you long.

    Yeah, I’m just a troll. A troll who just happens to have far more people agreeing with my sentiments than yours.
    Here you go: S-A-N F-R-A-C-I-S-C-O. Happy?

    What if the D got an interception after those timeouts, then he looks like a Genius. Which gets to my point, everyone makes mistakes.

    They didn’t. If his decision to call timeout was based in that then he deserves to get blasted for making it.

    Bill Belichick in 2009 was called out on the carpet for a timeout and going for it on fourth down. Give me a fucking break. Nobody has a fucking crystal ball where they can say, let’s not call a timeout.

    Did I say they had a crystal ball. What the fuck is this shit? But since you brought it up, just how many times has Bill been questioned about his time outs? Put that number up against Lovies and tell me if you notice a difference.

    I don’t care about the radio stations in Chicago – they analyze everything. They analyzed Tom Coughlin and Ahmed Bradshaw on ESPN1000.

    You don’t care about Chicago radio stations? And I care about that because……why?
    By the way, it’s their fucking job to analyzed sports. Hence the term “Sports radio”. Just what is your point?

    The Chiefs Game- The Bears did not lose because Lovie Smith called a timeout, grow the fuck up.

    How can you be so sure? By the way, it didn’t do much to help them win it either.

    They lost because no. 47 (fuck-face) batted the ball down and Caleb Haney/Moron Barber blows.

    I will agree with you that Conte, Hanie and Barber do in fact suck. But they were not the only problem when they played KC.

    The Lions Game – Back the fuck up.

    Explain.

    Reality – There is something called a Salary Cap. Hate to break it to you, but I don’t see the Bears signing three OL. They need only one.

    Yes, there is a salary cap. The Bears are well under it. They can afford to upgrade. I wasn’t saying they could do it overnight, but if they don’t start working on soon, Cutler leave in a body bag.

    If you had the same WR’s that the Bears had in 2008-2010, you’re telling me you would not try Hester as a WR? FYI, Mike Tice is planning to use Hester as a slot reciever.

    No, I would not try Hester as a WR. He’s too important returning kickoffs to risk. I would go and get a genuine WR instead. If Tice tries to use a slot receiver he should be kicked in the balls. By the way, what was Hesters production on kickoffs and punt returns after trying to make him a WR?

    I can guarantee you Chucky, if you were a Head Coach, you would be criticized for blown Challenges and Timeouts.

    What???????????? Just out of curiosity, do you agree with what Lovie did during the first quarter of the Lions game? If you do, you’re as stupid as him.

    SHOW ME ONE FUCKING Head Coach in the NFL that HAS NOT been called out for bad timeouts.

    I’m sure they all have. It’s just that most of them don’t necessarily get called out every week.

    I’m not responding to everything you posted about Ron Rivera. This post is long enough. But I’ll say he probably should be fired for fucking up that bad. Do you think he should stay?
    I made my point. Every Coach faces scrutiny for how they use their timeouts. It means nothing.
    Actually. You just made mine. While every coach faces scrutiny, it seems to me Lovies really getting blasted. And deservedly so.
    None of Lovie’s timeouts can be said to have cost the game.
    You have a crystal ball yourself? Is that how you know that. If that was true, I don’t think Lovie would be getting torched every day the way he does.
    Your argument regarding not firing Lovie because of Tom Coughlin’s situation in New York doesn’t fly either. Coughlin won the Super Bowl. Twice. How many Super Bowls has Lovie won?
    Face it. The Bears will not win a Super Bowl until ownership and coaching go the fuck away.

  19. Fro Dog Says:

    I can think of at least four games in Lovie’s tenure which in my opinion lost the game:

    Bears/Seahawks – Regular Season – 2007. Cedric Benson on his first carry, goes 60 or so yards for a touchdown. After that, the Bears ran the ball maybe ten more times before losing in the last quarter. In the press conference, someone asked Lovie why they didn’t continue to run the ball. He responded with “They’ll eventually stop that”.

    2008 – Two Games against both the Buccaneers and Panthers. Both games, the Bears had 4TH downs that would have decided the game or at least continue a drive to win it. Both times, all they had to do was a simple quarterback sneak. Regardless, Lovie decides to go for it both times and try a run up the middle or some stupid play action and both times, failed.

    This next thing doesn’t have much to with Lovie’s play-calling but rather the stupidity of him handling a certain player. In that Bucs game, Charles Tillman (worthless) decided to be an idiot and get unsportsmanlike conduct penalty that cost the Bears the game in overtime. Lovie did nothing about it. The least he could have done was fine him.

    2011 – Bears/Lions Monday Night as Chucky mentioned. Right after that 4TH down play was stopped, Stafford throws a bomb to Calvin Johnson for an easy touchdown and the Bears never recover.

    There were a few other games in those years that Lovie, instead of taking the points deep in the opponents territory, he decided to go for it and they failed.

  20. Tony Says:

    For every NFL team, there is a Chucky who does the following;

    (1) Bring up shit (like spelling) then when he gets called up on it himself, throws a fucking tantrum and turns shit around like you were the one to bring it up (aka act like a Bitch Women).

    (2) Criticize in-game coaching decisions that happen TO EVERY FUCKING TEAM and claim, without a scintilla of evidence that HIS TEAM is somehow worse. Fail to name 17 timeout controversies with the Bears last year even though he claims it is every week.

    (3) CONFUSE the GM’s responsibilities with the Head Coach’s. Lovie was given shit talent, tried to make the best out of it.

    (4) Fail to understand that 90% of the shit on ESPN1000 are made up controversies (like regular news). Get bent out of shape over stupid shit no one cares about.

    (5) Think their Coach should be fired if they don’t win the super bowl, call a game perfectly, blow their fucking nose, whilefailing to realize that would include 30 other teams as well.

    (6) Make bullshit statements like the Bears need three more offensive linemen. Have unrealistic expectations that this will happen.

  21. Tony Says:

    Fro Dog, those are very weak indictments. The other options are not gauranteed to be successful; (1) Run the Ball More (QB Sneak instead of power run (3) Not sure what Lovie could have done afterwords (4) Big plays happen against everyone.

    I do remember, one game in particular two years ago where they could not get 2, 3, and 4th in Goal. But to say QB sneak (which is risky for the QB as well) would work is a stretch.

  22. chucky Says:

    Yeah, every NFL team has a guy like me. Unfortunately, every team also as a Tony who is:

    1) Totally incapable of admitting when he’s wrong.

    2) Totally incapable of critical thinking.

    3) Rationalizes every move and decision the team and/or head coach makes, no matter how wrong it is..

    4) Totally incapable of criticizing a team and head coach who isn’t worth a fuck.

    (1) Bring up shit (like spelling) then when he gets called up on it himself, throws a fucking tantrum and turns shit around like you were the one to bring it up (aka act like a Bitch Women).

    I swear, Lovie could axe murder babies and you’d defend him. Tony, next to Yeti, you’re the bitch around. You two actually make a good pair. Are you dating? And what exactly is a “Bitch Women”? And it’s ok with me if you think I’m throwing a tantrum when I’m actually just punking you out.

    (2) Criticize in-game coaching decisions that happen TO EVERY FUCKING TEAM and claim, without a scintilla of evidence that HIS TEAM is somehow worse. Fail to name 17 timeout controversies with the Bears last year even though he claims it is every week.

    Yes, I criticize his decisions. He seemingly makes questionable decisions weekly. My posts are long enough without my recapping 16 games. I did provide examples for you. So did Fro. You didn’t think they were bad decisions. It’s your fantasy, live it any way you want to. And if they happen to every team, YOU list them here. One week, all 32 teams. Go ahead, I’ll wait.

    (3) CONFUSE the GM’s responsibilities with the Head Coach’s. Lovie was given shit talent, tried to make the best out of it.

    I’m not confused. The Bears are. If you choose to believe the lies Scott Hagel told on the air, that’s your problem. We all know how the when anybody from the Bears speaks to the media they fucking lie through their teeth.

    (4) Fail to understand that 90% of the shit on ESPN1000 are made up controversies (like regular news). Get bent out of shape over stupid shit no one cares about.

    I primarily listen to the Score. I don’t really like ESPN1000.. Is it really 90%, or did you just pull that number out of your ass? Do I get bent over stupid shit that nobody cares about? A lot of people on this site seem to care. Buffone and O’Bradovich seem to care. A lot of hosts from the Score seem to care. You seem to be in the minority. Again.

    (5) Think their Coach should be fired if they don’t win the super bowl, call a game perfectly, blow their fucking nose, whilefailing to realize that would include 30 other teams as well.

    Not quite. I think Lovie should be fired because HE NEVER WILL WIN the Super Bowl. I never said he had to call a game perfectly, just better than he does. He is too stubborn, too stupid, and too embarrassed to admit ever being wrong. And yes, I’m goddamn sick of his arrogance and condescending attitude toward anybody who questions him.

    (6) Make bullshit statements like the Bears need three more offensive linemen. Have unrealistic expectations that this will happen.

    Did I say that? When? Where? I said they need more linemen, but I don’t recall saying 3. I could be wrong. Point out exactly where I said it and I’ll stand corrected. I don’t think my expectations are unrealistic. As far as personnel is concerned, I don’t expect anything at this point. I DO expect Lovie to be an asshole and be stupid again next season. Is that unrealistic? Tough shit, deal with it.

    Have you noticed that YOU are the only guy on this site who thinks Lovie deserves to stay? Should tell you a story, if you were smart enough to listen. Guess you’re not. Now go away and don’t bother me anymore.

  23. Tony Says:

    You should be an Eagles fan.

  24. chucky Says:

    And you shouldn’t be a fan at all.

    I’m done with you. Arguing with you is like arguing with a goddamn fencepost. I’m done wasting my time. I’m not going to see your point of view, you’re not going to see mine. Let’s just leave it at that.

  25. Tony Says:

    No, I see your point of view.

    I think we should fire Lovie Smith if he doesn’t win the SuperBowl/loses another challenge and hire Dick Jauron or Dave Wannstedt again.

  26. genrebuster Says:

    Tony, I’m happy (for you) that you approve of Lovie. Enjoy him while he’s around. I do not expect the Bears to win a Superbowl under his watch (would like to be wrong on that).

    Spin it however you like…but Lovie does not impress me one bit. Average at best and that might be too generous.

    The Bears performance after Cutler went down with the broken thumb was the last straw for me. I didn’t see a motivated and disciplined football team…I saw a fucking trainwreck.

    Totally PATHETIC. And that is unacceptable.

  27. Mitch Cummstein Says:

    “whilefailing”? Dammit, insert the space!!!!!!!!!!!

  28. The Sheeple Says:

    BAAAAAAAAAAHHHH BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHH BAAAAAAAAAAAAAHH BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHH

  29. Fro Dog Says:

    Mitch!

    We’ve missed you my friend. It just sucks to not see you and Kirk go at it like many years ago.

  30. Tony Says:

    genrebuster,

    With the exception of the Seahawks game, the Defense did rise to the Challenge – it’s the Offense that failed to produce.

    And that was because Haney sucks – bad. If they would have aquired a decent backup QB – they probably would have been in the Playoffs.

    Let’s not forget how close they were the year before to the SuperBowl.

    But things happen for a reason. The Bears not making the playoffs allowed a new GM to be hired.

    I agree that Lovie has one more year to produce, and if they do not get into the playoffs, he should be fired.

    But to say he should be fired for not winning the Superbowl – is a cockamanie argument.

  31. chucky Says:

    Fro….Have you heard from the Captain lately? He just seemed to fall off the face of the earth.

    Kirk…if you’re reading this, get the hell back here. And bring Spock with you too!

  32. Fro Dog Says:

    I have not heard from Kirk or Keith for that matter. I have no idea where either of them have been.

  33. MadCityMac Says:

    Chucky, as usual, thank you! Hard for me to get passionate about this as I am a Packer fan along with Jimmy, but as I listen toThe Score every day, I know what’s being said and what’s out there as far as comment is concerned. My take is that the Bears’ hiring for assistant coaches is one of the biggest clusterfucks ever. It seems like they are making all of this crap up as they go; there does not seem to be a plan. It’s like when they hired The Genius Martz; didn’t seem like he wanted it, nobody else did, and then Mr. Super Genius took the job. Then, the arrogant fuck is so egotistical with his offense, he won’t let Cutler audible. REALLY? The guy went to Vanderbilt for Christ’s sake! He’s intelligent. They don’t let people like Tyrell Prior into Vanderbilt. It sounds like the Long Island Lugnut, Mike Tice, is going to let Cutler actually think for himself. You need a QB with a brain who can think on the run. Hell, when Matt Flynn set about every single game Packer record imaginable against the Lions in the last regular season game- who was calling the plays? Aaron Rodgers! Talk about a QB with a brain! Jesus Fuckingf Christ! Cutler could probably do the same- he’s obviously smarter than Martz. Besides winning ONE Super Bowl, with a shitload of talent, what, really, has Martz done? Not a whole helluva fuckin’ lot! The Bears will do better this year than last, if Cutler stays healthy. Get Carimi back healthy, get another lineman (I keep hearing they may draft Kevin Zeitler and/or Peter Konz from Wisconsin; can’t go wrong with either), and give Cutler some time, bring in a #1 or 2 receiver, and with the Bears’ defense, they could scare a lot of people NEXT year. I say next year because the D is getting old, and the window is closing. Did I mention how badly I’d love to be a GM?

  34. MadCityMac Says:

    By the way, if you guys have any curiosity what I was doing 32 years ago, check out the Madison Muskies Facebook page. My friend Wendi (okay, maybe a little more than friends at the time 🙂 ) started it. I’ll be firing off my photos when I was the team photographer in 1982-83, and assistant General Manager in ’84. Team photos ,and other stuff, including, if I can find it (I know I still have the negatives!) Jose Canseco before he discovered the wonders of chemistry. Even though I was basically destitute at the time, still the most fun I ever had at a job, and even had a chance, albiet a slim one, at fulfilling my lifelong dream of doing basball play-by-play. Only reason I didn;t get it was we lost our radio contract for the ’85 season.

  35. MadCityMac Says:

    Forgot to mention, we were the Class A club in the Midwest League for the Oakland A’s! Got to drink with Tim Belcher, Luis Polonia, Darrel Akerfelds, and Terry Steinbach!

  36. Tony Says:

    They should, and could, take care of all their Offense needs in FA. A LOT of WR talent and some O-line. Even a TE, because Helen-Keller Davis can’t see the fucking ball and make a catch.

    They can use their draft picks for defense – they pretty much need help in every position on D. A passrusher, Saftey, a OLB to replace the vets. Another CB too.

    They could move Tillman to Saftey and get a couple of more years out of him, plenty of CB’s have done that. Still like Tillman, but he is loosing speed.

    Packers seem to be hitting gold in the QB draft. Most Packer fans were very irrate when Favre was shown the door, which is ironic now – many are saying, Favre who?

  37. chucky Says:

    Mac….thanks man. I don’t know if it’s passion or just me getting completely pissed off about how the Bears go about their business. As you can see, I’m not real pleasant to be around when I’m pissed. I really don’t see how the Bears will be worth a fuck as long as Ginny and Lovie are dating. I don’t think there is another pro sports franchise that operates quite like the Bears. It’s truly frustrating.

    And I REALLY can’t understand how the Giants look like an ordinary team for 17 weeks then become fucking world beaters when the playoffs start. I really thought your Packers were going to win the Super Bowl again. They had one hell of a year. I know if I were a fan of the Packers I’d be pissed at the way the season ended. I wouldn’t blame you Mike if you were pissed about it.

  38. Virginia Says:

    …”dating”…my word, that sounds so proper! tee hee

  39. Tony Says:

    Today’s NFL it is hardley a lock for any team. It’s aboput who gets hot at the right time. Cardinals a few years ago made a run, Denver had some success, KC beat the fucking Pakers.

    Gone are the days we new Dallas was going to win every fucking year and the Bills were going to blow it.

  40. Tony Says:

    Today’s NFL it is hardley a lock for any team. It’s about who gets hot at the right time. Cardinals a few years ago made a run, Denver had some success, KC beat the fucking Pakers.

    Gone are the days we new Dallas was going to win every fucking year and the Bills were going to blow it.

  41. MadCityMac Says:

    Chucky, believe it or not, I was actually over that Packer loss to the Giants even before the game ended, only because they played like shit that day. Nobody could hang onto the ball, and A. Rodg didn’t have his best game, but the Packers are still doing everything the right way and I’m pretty happy about that. And Rodgers is obviously one of the best.

  42. genrebuster Says:

    I think the Bears have a ways to go before they can contend with the Packers & Patriots …dropped passes or not (of course, we can add several more teams to the list)

SHOW DA FIRE AND PASSION, MY FRENDT!

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