I’m Tired!

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* I’m tired of watching this bunch of losers with no sense of pride or direction.

* I’m tired of Piniella for making far too many Dustyesque moves and not leading these losers in the right direction.

* I’m tired of Hendry’s lack of vision to properly assemble a group of players that can play consistant winning baseball through the season and playoffs. When he became GM, he should have come up with a plan and stayed with it to fruition instead of changing the plan from one year to the next. Throwing millions of dollars at several players that don’t fit the needs of the team is a recipe for disaster. Hendry is a piss-poor judge of talent.

* I.m tired of these players that once they get their huge payday, become lazy and complacient. Isn’t there any sense of pride in these assholes.

* I’m tired of Sam Zell for dragging out the sale of this team for what will be damned near three years by the time it’s finally sold. The new owner will have many fences to mend. I just hope he will be able fix this fucked up mess in my lifetime.

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106 Responses to “I’m Tired!”

  1. genrebuster Says:

    Amen, brother.

  2. mlbtvsucks Says:

    I delivered pizzas through college too… my best friend was a cook and I’d let him know if the guy/gal ordering on the phone was a stiff AND a dickhead. It would usually be late at night and all the cooks would be sweaty… one night he reached his hand into his pants and covered it in the goopiest ball sweat I’d ever seen. That shit was stringing when he spread his fingers out. SMACK! He would dry his hands using the offenders dough. I’ve seen far worse too…

    Besides, if you’re a “good” customer I gurantee you get the freshest dough and most toppings. Pizza drivers take very good care of their good customers. Me, never put any fluids or body parts in anyone’s food. Just what I need, a felony… see “Tampering With Consumer Products” law in my state (Texas). Its a 3rd degree felony to spit in a hamburger.

    What I did do was subtle things to make me feel like I was getting “revenge” on the stiffs. I’d shake the HELL out of their 2-liter, conveniently dropping it a couple times (then waiting for the fizz to go down). I would make sure they got 1/10th the amount of toppings/cheese. I would deliver their order last. Sometime’s I’d drop the pizza on purpose when it came out of the oven so they’d have to wait a little bit longer. I’d conveniently be out of cheese/peppers. I’d tip the pizza sideways while loading it into the car. When taking an order on the phone, I would accidently cancel it instead of sending it through.

    One night I was so fucking hungry… damn, it sucked. I had this big order and I ate a piece of their pizza. Then I opened another box and ate another piece. I ate one piece out of about 6 total boxes.

    The food service was awesome 2003-2005 were some fun years.

  3. mlbtvsucks Says:

    Oh shit, forgot to make a point…

    I wouldn’t want my DNA in anyone’s food… I wouldnt ask my friend to do anything specific to their food, and it wasn’t often I told him about a douche’s order. I’d let him be creative. I laughed so hard when the ball juice incident occured. I still don’t feel bad.

    Point being from my last post–
    There are other ways that are more satisfying that wont potentially sicken children sharing that same pizza. I’m sure the jackass that eats the dingleberry garlic sauce in a way deserved it, but his 7 year old boy eating it doesn’t deserve to be subjected to the biological hazard of my spray farts. Call me juvenile, I couldn’t fucking care less what anyone thinks, but subtle terrorism of people’s food is quite okay. Maybe fuckers could take the hint? Professionalism in the pizza delivery business? Who the fuck thinks there’s pride in that? I didn’t care what people thought of our food. It wasn’t my business and there was little incentive to even show up on time.

    OH YEAH, I just remembered a favorite…
    When the pizza came out, I would make it a point to cut it… I would ONLY enough pressure on the blade to create lines in the cheese. The crust would still be whole.

  4. chucky Says:

    This is from Paul Sullivan of the Tribune:

    Cubs GM hasn’t thought about 2010?

    “I haven’t even thought about next year yet,” he said. “We just haven’t played up to our capabilities. It’s kind of a mystery to all of us.”

    What a great GM, huh? Way to go, Moe. I guess you weren’t really thinking of the future when you signed all those back loaded contracts too. You know, the ones nobody in their right minds would take off your hands. How many more years are we stuck with that goof Soriano in left?

    Fucking flaming assbag.

  5. Irish Yeti Says:

    mlbtvsucks.
    You are a fucking moron

  6. Matt Stairs Superfan Says:

    For MLBTV,

    I saw the earlier post on what Fro said about delivering. That must have sucked but I understand why you guys did it. I didn’t know tampering with food was a felony. I heard Texas was rough on laws but holy crap.

    The wife and I order Pizza Hut every couple weeks and I always gave the guy at least $4 or $5. The guy always thanks us and the other day, he gave us extra bread sticks. You treat people right and they will do the same for you.

  7. Matt Stairs Superfan Says:

    One more thing,

    FIRE JIM HENDRY!

  8. Dave Says:

    Cardinals pick up Smoltz, and Hendry continues to sit on his thumbs. He must enjoy the way it tickles down there.

    Our inconsistent offense tore the cover off the ball last night. They will likely be quiet for the rest of the road trip. Consistent at being inconsistent.

  9. genrebuster Says:

    This time I agree with Yeti.

    “the writings” are slipping….must be all that hot air in TX.

    Hendry is an IDIOT. This organization deserves to lose.

  10. genrebuster Says:

    chucky, your previous post (Sullivan on Hendry) pretty much sums up the PATHETIC Cubs organization.

  11. erniesarmy Says:

    Cubs GM hasn’t thought about 2010?

    “I haven’t even thought about next year yet,” he said. “We just haven’t played up to our capabilities. It’s kind of a mystery to all of us.”
    =================================

    Of course he hasn’t thought about next year, because he isn’t planning on being back next year, neither is Lou!

    All they are doing is playing out the year, picking up their paychecks and going on vacation, while in their wake is a franchise in shambles!

    It will take a minimum of five years for the new owners and gm to get this organization competitive again.

    None of the current roster will be around, and most of the minor league system will need to be cleaned out as well.

    It is going to be a long slow process rebuilding this franchise, after the hurricane like mess these bozos have left behind.

  12. genrebuster Says:

    Maybe awhile back Ricketts said “sell me the team NOW or find another buyer”.

    WHAT IS THE HOLD UP? It’s been more than 2 years since “Cubs for sale” was announced, right?

    I would have been happy giving Marc Cuban a crack at ownership, I bet that would have at least been more entertaining than the current shit storm we’ve been enduring.

  13. MadCityMac Says:

    Keith, I can’t add a thing to what you said except to agree about Hendry being a fucking moron for not giving any thought to next year. Then again, he’ll probably be bagging groceries this time next year so it won’t be his job anyway (PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE!!!!!!!)

    Fuck Moe, Shitbag Zell, and senile ol’ Grandpa Lou. Get the fuck out of Chicago you goddamn losers!

  14. genrebuster Says:

    The Cubs bullpen is PATHETIC.

    Can we all agree on this?

  15. genrebuster Says:

    Another inning…and the bullpen still sucks. Imagine that!

  16. robert Says:

    kenny williams says after the sox go 3 and 3 on a roadtrip

    “We lost two games we should have won, which [would have put] us a half-game out of first place,” Williams said. “We’ve thrown away a dozen games that way this year, which [has cost] us where I thought we would be, in first place and in a good position.

    “But we deserve what we’ve got. I’m not happy with a lot of what I see. We’re underachievers.

    moe hendry quote

    Cubs GM hasn’t thought about 2010?

    “I haven’t even thought about next year yet,” he said. “We just haven’t played up to our capabilities. It’s kind of a mystery to all of us.”

    who has a ws title who does not

  17. erniesarmy Says:

    I especially liked the move Piniella made in the top of the sixth, having Aaron Miles (.182 battiing avg.) pinch hit for Gorzelany who was pitching a pretty decent game, and could do exactly what Miles did – Miles grounds out for an easy out, and Guzman gives up three hits, a walk, and a Grand Slam! Nice work there Lou, you should be up for manager of the year.

    Why is Aaron Miles on a MLB roster? Seriously? Does anybody know?

  18. chucky Says:

    I think he gives some serious head to upper management. It’s the reason I can come up with.

  19. Nemo Says:

    I’ve received some so-so head, good head, and amazing head in my life, and let me tell you that not even the amazing ladies were good enough that I’d ever let them pinch hit, manage, or general manage my ballclub.

  20. Dave Says:

    Well Ricketts has finally signed the deal to purchase the cubs for 845 million dollars. All that is left is a car-wash style bankrupcy hearing, and approval by 29 other MLB owners which is expected to be a formality.

    Your days are numbered, Hendry. Have fun running this team into the ground for the rest of this season because you WILL NOT BE BACK!!

  21. chucky Says:

    All I can say to that is….IT’S ABOUT FUCKING TIME!!!!!!!!!!!!

  22. robert Says:

    On the original FDB site there was a countdown till Douchebags contract expired can we do that now with hendrys hold on this team only 43 games to go cubs should go 14 -29

  23. robert Says:

    the first thing the cubs need to do this offseason is shit can kevin gregg if anyone offers him a contract with the cubs header they need to be shot

    Make your first second third fourth fifth sixth seventh eighth ningth tenth eleventh twelth and thirtenth priority to sign Jose Valverde

    Release anyone with the name of Aaron on the team

    fire lawrence roachchild

    Sign Rich Harden

    Hire Mike Maddux or his brother as your pitching coach look what he has done with the rangers

  24. Matt Stairs Superfan Says:

    Sale is completed. That only took 2 1/2 years.

    Fire Crane Kenney
    Fire Jim Hendry.
    Fire Larry Rothschild
    Fire Louser Piniella

    Shit. Just clean up the whole damn house. Starting from Kenney all the way down to the players.

    ErniesArmy and I both said this a while back but it’s worth mentioning again: This whole process of rebuilding will be a long process. Everyone has to go. New people with a fresh mindset need to be put into place. New scouting, new players, etc.

    So of course, this will not be fixed overnight. It could take anywhere from 3-6 years to make a strong team with a strong farm system. I would be fine with that though because I know the arrow is pointing up.

  25. Matt Stairs Superfan Says:

    1 hit? One damn hit?

    Who cares. No one is listening anyway.

  26. ksmc2000 Says:

    Matt,

    We have been waiting our entire lives, so a few more years won’t be a problem. At least they are finally rid of the root of all evil, the Tribune Company. I am confident that Tom Ricketts will bring in the “right people” to build a winning franchise in a reasonable amount of time.

  27. genrebuster Says:

    Is it really true? Cubs are “officially sold”? If so, that makes me very happy…a big positive in this otherwise very disappointing season.

    Fuck the Tribune, good riddance. IMOP, they are/were hands down the worst owners in the history of professional sports.

    PATHETIC!

  28. robert Says:

    Matt I agree with what you said ErniesArmy and I both said this a while back but it’s worth mentioning again: This whole process of rebuilding will be a long process. Everyone has to go. New people with a fresh mindset need to be put into place. New scouting, new players, etc.

    So of course, this will not be fixed overnight. It could take anywhere from 3-6 years to make a strong team with a strong farm system. I would be fine with that though because I know the arrow is pointing up.

    You can come up with excuse after excuse why they cubs dont win….
    day baseball
    not enoung black and latino players
    that kid who must have been a marlins fan
    etc etc
    The reason the cubs have never won is they have never developed there own players.

    pd 43 games to go

  29. erniesarmy Says:

    o of course, this will not be fixed overnight. It could take anywhere from 3-6 years to make a strong team with a strong farm system. I would be fine with that though because I know the arrow is pointing up.
    =============================

    I agree, Matt, the only thing, though, will the Ricketts, and the fans, be willing to be patient? I mean, he bought the club to make some kind of profit, so falling revenues could mean more dumb decisions. Also, sheepie fans may put on the pressure to “win now” with more Soriano-like contracts. He will have to be a stubborn man who sticks with the plan no matter what the Chicago sports media and sheepie say.

    I hope he looks at the Florida teams as models of how to build a winning franchise, especially the Marlins! This is a team that regularly blows up his whole roster, starts over, then is competitive in a couple of years, and wins a World Series in five to seven years.

    robert is exactly right about the farm system! I have been a Cubs fan for 45 years, and I can never remember a time where the Cubs farm system was considered the best in the business (I believe Dallas Green was trying to do that before he left), or developed the kind of players that are winners. I am talking about the Derek Jeters, the Steve Carltons, the Dustin Pedroias, the Bob Gibsons, the Mariano Riveras, etc. No, the Cubs system has consistently given us Mike Fotenot, Mike Harkey, and Jerome Walton!!

    It is true, however, that the Cubs system has given us Ryan Sandberg, Ron Santo, Billy Williams, and Kerry Wood, but they don’t get the right mix. The teams are usually all hit and no pitch! I thought Mark Prior and Kerry Wood, or even Fergie Jenkins and Kenny Holtzman, would be the centerpiece of a W.S. championship team, but something always doesn’t fit. Either they have the wrong kind of manager, or wrong pitching coach, or the players don’t know the fundamentals – something always doesn’t fit.

    That’s what the new owners need to do. Figure out the kind of team that can win a W.S. in Wrigley Field. What kind of manager? What kind of player? Then build from there with a good gm and good baseball people who can recognize latent talent, scout them, then sign them.

    Otherwise, it will just be more of the same.

    Genre, the Tribune were horrible owners, but they were better than the Wrigley’s, and certainly better than CBS (who nearly ruined the New York Yankees in the late 60’s).

  30. erniesarmy Says:

    From the Sun Times:

    “”Lou Piniella and hitting coach Von Joshua have suggested that Soriano use a lighter bat to help break out of his slump. But Soriano is comfortable with the heaviest bat on the team and is reluctant to change.”

    So, Soriano is “reluctant to change” no kidding! Why do you think the Yankees, Rangers, and Nationals wanted to get rid of him? It was for that exact reason, the guy is a walking talking head case! He doesn’t get it, he has never gotten it, and he never will.

    I hope the new owners, and gm, find a way to dump this crud before next season, even if it means eating part of his salary.

  31. robert Says:

    ernie if you look at the rosters of the world series winners since baseball went to the divisional format in 69 all but 2 teams the 97 marlins and the 01 dbacks had at least ten players who were either homegrown or were aquired buy trade or through minor league free agency

  32. robert Says:

    my point is that teams that dont develop there own players will have winning seasons teams that do develop there own will win and win consitently…for more proof look at the last two teams that lost the ws the rockies and the rays…they have developed there own players and are poised to win and win for quite a while

  33. Nemo Says:

    So, what’s the Cubs excuse for not winning for decades before free agency? They had homegrown players then. What’s the excuse for the Cubs not winning for over 70 years before the Trib took over? As fucked up as the trib has been-and I am FUCKING GLAD to be rid of them-this organization’s problem run so much deeper that the Trib and for all we know, we will be wanting Ricketts to sell in two years. I am highly skeptical.

  34. genrebuster Says:

    Nemo, I am highly skeptical, too on Ricketts. Regardless, we all know that a change has been needed for some time…hopefully this one is positive.

    Ernie. I would be happy to see Soriano gone next year, even if it costs the Cubs. Also, whatever happened to Mike Harkey? I thought he was going to be the next Bob Gibson HA HA HA HA HA

    I wonder how Harden, Dempster, Lilly and Zambrano would perform under the direction of a new pitching coach?

  35. genrebuster Says:

    I shoud have posted “I wonder how Harden, Dempster, Lilly and Zambrano would perform under the direction of a REAL pitching coach?”

    Hendry and Rothschild should be the first to go. Maybe Lou will wake up and punch somebody in the throat….or maybe he’s just “too tired”…..waaaahh wahhhhhhhhhhh waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah

  36. erniesarmy Says:

    Like I said, Nemo, the Wrigley’s were actually worse than the Tribune. At least they spent money to try and make the team better.

    Nevertheless, I don’t know how much ownership can change this climate of losing. They have to make a lot of right decisions in a short period of time, because this bunch they have right now isn’t going anywhere. That includes the front office, coaching staffs, and farm system.

    Yes, the Cubs have developed some pretty good homegrown talent in the past, but it doesn’t FIT! They don’t have the kind of talent that can win during the playoffs, or win the crucial games. They have never, at least in my 45 years of watching them, had a manager that had the skill to get them fundamentally, and mentally, prepared to handle the stress and pressure of playing for a team that hasn’t won in 100 years. That’s going to take a special manager, a smart tactician, a strict disciplinarian, and a psychologist all rolled into one.

    IMO I thought the team that had the best chance to at least get to the World Series, though I don’t think they would have won, was the 1984 club. They had good pitching, good hitting, and a solid closer. But, when the pressure started to build, they crumbled, just like they did in 69 and 03.

    Jim Frey was a good manager, but he could not get them to believe they could do it, even with a 2-0 lead going back to San Diego only needing one more win. That was the team that had the best chance. They had Sutcliffe, the Cy Young winner, on the mound going into the sixth inning with a 3-0 lead, what could go wrong, right? The 03 team was bound to self-destruct because Dusty doesn’t know what he’s doing, and the 69 team was 1) mismanaged by Durocher, and 2) was unfortunate to have to be in the same division as the Mets with that pitching staff. I mean, the Orioles that year were a powerhouse, and the Mets pitching just shut them down. So that team was no fluke.

    Anyway, the Tribune Co. had to go, it doesn’t guarantee a good future, but at least it will mean a change.

  37. robert Says:

    the source of that article is onebadcentury.com

  38. robert Says:

    here is the article

    In the days before each big league team owned farm teams, every minor league club was run independently. Major League scouts would simply check out all the minor league clubs looking for the best players, and it was up to the minor league team owner to “sell” his players for the best offer. For instance, read here how the owner of San Francisco Seals begged the Cubs to buy Joe DiMaggio (photo).

    One of the first teams to realize they could better control the situation by owning their own minor league teams was the St. Louis Cardinals. One of the last teams to realize this was the Chicago Cubs. By 1940, the Cardinals owned 32 minor league teams. The Cubs owned zero. Between 1940 and 1968 the Cardinals won the World Series five times. I don’t need to tell you how many the Cubs won.

    When his baseball people finally convinced PK Wrigley (photo) to buy some farm teams, he insisted that all of the teams be financially independent and run like a business. He was much more concerned about how much money the farm teams were earning than the quality of players they provided to the big league club. Therefore, when the best Cubs prospects developed, they were offered up to the highest bidder…even though they were Cubs prospects. The Cubs lost dozens of prospects to teams who were willing to pay more for Cubs players than Wrigley was.

    But even after he realized this wasn’t a prudent course of action, Wrigley still didn’t invest the kind of money necessary to make the farm system helpful to the big league club.

    The Cubs had the smallest staff of scouts in baseball, and they had virtually no instructors in the minor leagues. In the late 40s and the 1950s, they had exactly one minor league pitching coach…a roaming instructor who went from team to team. The results were predictable. Between Bob Rush (who wasn’t even that good) in the late 40s and Ken Holtzman (photo) in 1965, the Cubs didn’t produce a single quality starting pitcher from their farm system. Those twenty seven years (1948-1967) just so happens to coincide with the worst teams in Chicago baseball history.

    In addition to that, until Wid Mathews was hired as GM in 1950, the Cubs didn’t have anyone in the minor leagues teaching fundamentals to the position players. Mathews finally hired Rogers Hornsby, who had been one of the greatest hitters of all-time, but he couldn’t teach at all. He couldn’t understand why everyone wasn’t as naturally great as he was.

    Throughout the 1950s the Cubs had the worst minor league system in baseball. They didn’t like to pay big bonuses, and when they did, they sent those bonus babies into a farm system that didn’t train them. The play ers that did make it (Ernie Banks, Billy Williams, Ron Santo), fell into their laps out of sheer luck.

    Other teams tried to sign Ernie Banks, but he was loyal to his Negro League team, the Kansas City Monarchs. The only reason he went with the Cubs was because his manager Buck O’Neil advised him to do it–and Banks trusted O’Neil. It’s doubtful that either O’Neil or Banks realized that the Cubs only wanted him because they needed another black player to room with their only black player (Gene Baker) on the road.

    Ron Santo was offered much more money by other teams, but he signed with the Cubs anyway because he felt loyalty to the only Cubs scout on the West Coast; the first person that discovered him. The Reds offered Santo $80,000. The Cubs offer was insulting by comparison ($20,000), but he took it anyway out of loyalty. Billy Williams was so painfully shy that he had to be talked into playing baseball…and almost quit before he reached the big leagues.

    So why have the Cubs gone 100 years without winning a World Series? Geez…I don’t know. Must be bad luck, right?

    Does that answer your question nemo

  39. genrebuster Says:

    Ernie, I just glanced at your most recent post and you make some excellent, points…this caught my eye immediately:

    “Yes, the Cubs have developed some pretty good homegrown talent in the past, but it doesn’t FIT! They don’t have the kind of talent that can win during the playoffs, or win the crucial games. They have never, at least in my 45 years of watching them, had a manager that had the skill to get them fundamentally, and mentally, prepared to handle the stress and pressure of playing for a team that hasn’t won in 100 years. That’s going to take a special manager, a smart tactician, a strict disciplinarian, and a psychologist all rolled into one.”

    I agree with you on 1984 Cubs…I was shocked when they lost the NLCS.

  40. genrebuster Says:

    The Dodgers are better than the Cubs….again. Oh well, wait till next year.

  41. erniesarmy Says:

    Hey, Robert, thanks so much for posting that article. I started watching the Cubs in 1964, and I always wondered why they were so pathetic for so long.

    That article answered all my questions – GREAT JOB!

  42. erniesarmy Says:

    Man, I’m starting to get pretty good with this predicting stuff:
    …………………………….
    erniesarmy Says:
    August 17, 2009 at 6:12 pm
    Cubs going on a seven game road trip, three in San Diego and four in Los Angeles.

    My prediction 2 out of 5. They should win at least 2, but will probably end up with 1.
    ………………………………

    Maybe I should open up a palm reading business HA HA HA HA!!!!!

    Here’s my easiest prediction: “Cubs stink!”

  43. genrebuster Says:

    Ernie…you beat me to the punch: 5 minutes ago I went to a previous post to confirm your prediction on this road trip…just found your post….and you just referenced it.

    Yes indeed, you were/are correct sir!

    I’ve actually been looking at the a

  44. genrebuster Says:

    Ernie…you beat me to the punch: 5 minutes ago I went to a previous post to confirm your prediction on this road trip…just found your post….and you just referenced it.

    Yes indeed, you were/are correct sir! Too bad for the Cubs.

    I’ve actually been looking at the archives–March and April–and much of what the regulars here were discussing isn’t too far off from how things are looking now. I get no pleasure in making that statement as I want the Cubs to WIN…but where the Cubs sit at this moment in time is NO SURPRISE TO ME. And I’m no “expert”.

    When Jim Hendry is quoted as saying “We just haven’t played up to our capabilities. It’s kind of a mystery to all of us.” …that worries me. HOW THE HELL DOES THAT STINKING BUM KEEP HIS JOB?

    Don’t give up on 4th place just yet: The Astros and Brewers are right behind us.

    On the other hand, Marmol got a save today! He struck out Manny looking!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This is the year after all…Go Cubs go!!!!!!

    baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

  45. genrebuster Says:

    I don’t know why there was an incomplete post posted (sorry ’bout that)….too bad there’s not a function where we can delete or edit our own posts.

  46. erniesarmy Says:

    This will not help their chances for next year:
    ………………………………………………
    LOS ANGELES — With news Friday that terms of the Cubs’ sale to the Ricketts family were finalized, one of the next major orders of business followed quickly, with manager Lou Piniella telling the Sun-Times he intends to return next season for the final year of his contract.

    Piniella’s status had been a matter of public speculation since June, when he declined to give direct answers to repeated media questions about his 2010 intentions. He had left his two most recent managing jobs, in Seattle and Tampa Bay, on his own terms with time left on those contracts.

    Piniella ended the speculation Friday: ”I’m planning to come back next year,” he said before the Cubs lost to the Dodgers 2-1 in Los Angeles.
    …………………………………………

    I agree that continuity is generally a good thing when it comes to success in sports. Too much change can disrupt the flow of what a club is trying to accomplish. However, this guy has done nothing all year but whine, “WHADDA WANT ME TO DO?” “I CAN’T WAVE A MAGIC WAND!” “WHAT CAN I DO!” I don’t want a whiner as manager. I understand the players are all excited about having Lou back, but that’s not surprising since players, as a general rule, only care about playing time, not what management does or doesn’t do.

    I will predict right now, that if the Ricketts don’t can Hendry AND Piniella, and his underperforming coaching staff, the Cubs will finish no better than third next year. You can copy that and keep it till the end of the 2010 season and see if I’m right. Let it be written, let it be done!

  47. Matt Stairs Superfan Says:

    Genre,

    I have been looking through the archives too in the last couple weeks. I still cannot believe how the sheeple continued to come here day in and day out dissing us because we had a different opinion. Well, lately, they haven’t been here. Coincidence?

    They may come back here in a week or two saying shit like “Well, they had injuries…No one can predict injuries!” Well duh. That’s why you have backup options and/or the farm system. Oops. I forgot. Jim Hendry didn’t have get any backup and he sure couldn’t build a farm system.

    Erniesarmy,

    You sure are right on the money with your predictions. I was shocked but then again, I wasn’t surprised considering what sports team we are talking about here…

  48. Irish Yeti Says:

    Actually, I’ll say that they were a team that had the talent to win. They’ve underachieved horribly. But anything that backs that up will be dismissed by you guys because, well, that’s what you guys do.

    However, the reason I’m not here is because I’m pretty apathetic to this team right now. It’s Bears season now. I hope you guys enjoyed watching the Answer in that game the other night

  49. Matt Stairs Superfan Says:

    Talent to win? Aaron Miles has talent? How about Joey Gathright? Hendry had both of those scrotums to start the season with. Ryan Freel? Not a chance.

    Kevin Gregg’s only talent is sucking dick because that seems to be the only reason he still has a roster spot.

    None of those players have talent. Last year’s team: All the talent in the world. Then there was Bob Howry but fuck that guy.

    By the way, Howry is 1-6 with San Francisco. That might be the only thing that is keeping me smile this year.

  50. Matt Stairs Superfan Says:

    I can’t believe I forgot to mention Milton Bradley and talent.

    Yeti, I just named 5 useless pieces of garbage that Hendry had on this team that had no talent what so ever.

  51. erniesarmy Says:

    Irish Yeti Says:
    August 23, 2009 at 10:56 pm
    Actually, I’ll say that they were a team that had the talent to win. They’ve underachieved horribly.
    …………………………

    No, actually, they didn’t. They had a few decent players, a couple of good players, and a whole lot of scrub-type players. Add into that mixture the likes of a Milton Bradley, the collapse of Soriano, and the whining of Piniella, and you have the perfect recipe for the kind of season they had.

    Frankly, I’m surprised they’ve done this well. But, I still see them finishing fourth. Houston and Milwaukee will catch them before it’s over.

  52. ksmc2000 Says:

    Ricketts needs to get rid of Hendry, Piniella, and the entire coaching staff for starters. Piss poor management for several years has put this team in the position they are in now. How in the fuck do you blow up 40% of a 97 win roster because the fucking manager was asleep at the wheel during the last two post-seasons? The only move that should have been made is to find a decent replacement for Howry. Piniella can side step and avoid the issue all he wants, but he is the one that wanted DeRosa gone because he spoke his mind a bit too much for Lou’s liking. He wants his players to be good soldiers and don’t make waves.

  53. robert Says:

    The cubs win 3-1 yesterday
    Jake Fox goes 4-4 with a hr and two rbis
    Lou is asked if Fox will get more playing time
    Louchebag is asked if fox will play more Lous reply
    I am going to rely on my veterans down the stretch
    where have we heard this shit before
    Lou talks about injuries happening to this team this year
    again I ask where have we heard this shit before
    Leading off for the cubs and playing shortstop Neifi Perez

  54. Matt Stairs Superfan Says:

    If Louser indeed said that, then he should be fired immediately. That fucking idiot has turned into Dusty.

  55. chucky Says:

    There has been talk on the radio today that Piniella is actually trying to get his ass fired. He’s said some real stupid shit lately, and it’s easy to see he’s just mailing it in for this season. He’s not even trying anymore, and it shows.

  56. erniesarmy Says:

    I see it the same as you, Chucky, but, then, how do you explain this –

    LOS ANGELES — With news Friday that terms of the Cubs’ sale to the Ricketts family were finalized, one of the next major orders of business followed quickly, with manager Lou Piniella telling the Sun-Times he intends to return next season for the final year of his contract.

    Piniella’s status had been a matter of public speculation since June, when he declined to give direct answers to repeated media questions about his 2010 intentions. He had left his two most recent managing jobs, in Seattle and Tampa Bay, on his own terms with time left on those contracts.

    Piniella ended the speculation Friday: ”I’m planning to come back next year,” he said before the Cubs lost to the Dodgers 2-1 in Los Angeles.
    …………………………..

    What’s he trying to do, make them fire him so he can collect more money than he would if he stayed another year? I don’t get it!

    He has mailed it in this year, it’s obvious, why would he say he’s coming back?

  57. robert Says:

    matt here is the quote

    The four hits were a career high for Fox, starting in place of Alfonso Soriano, who is nursing a sore left knee. The rookie smacked his ninth homer with one out in the second off starter Chad Billingsley (12-7), the first time the Cubs had a lead in this series.

    However, Fox may not be in the lineup Tuesday when the Cubs open a 10-game homestand against Washington.

    “I said I’ll play my veteran players and they’re going to have to get it done,” Piniella said. “I’ll lean as much as I can on the veteran players here and see what they can do and how far we can go.”

    Fox understands.

    “When I come in here, I don’t know what my job will be every day, but whatever job [Piniella] asks me to do, I’ll do to the best of my ability,” Fox said. “It was cool to be out there today and be part of that win.”

  58. robert Says:

    tommorow night to really inspire the team Lou is going to wear wristbands chew a toothpick the whole game and then fontenot is going to get a big hit and he is going to say where would have been alll season without Mike Fontenot… He is also going to do a double switch in the third fifth seventh and ninth…Wednesdays game the Cubs are going to be cruising to victory and the bullpen will blow it however they will have a chance to win it in the 9th and with the bases loaded and no one out he is going to send aaron miles in to pinch hit and he is going to hit it back to the pitcher and the runner and the runner on third will be throuwn out at home then he is going to get tossed out after rounding first to far then milton bradley will strike out…then lou will say after the game dude what do you want me to do dude

  59. erniesarmy Says:

    Piniella –

    “I said I’ll play my veteran players and they’re going to have to get it done,” Piniella said. “I’ll lean as much as I can on the veteran players here and see what they can do and how far we can go.”

    Here’s what he really meant to say –

    “I will play who I want, when I want, and no one can tell me differently! I don’t care about winning; I care about getting my way. If the fans don’t like it, tough! I don’t care what the fans think. I don’t care what anyone thinks. Go ahead and fire me, who cares! I still get paid regardless.”

    And the players want this to come back next year????? All players that want this crud back next year, raise your hands. OK, now we know who to get rid of.

  60. robert Says:

    If anyone gets nightmares about my prior post I do apologize

  61. genrebuster Says:

    robert, if you submit a post on Mark Prior, I will have nightmares for sure.

  62. chucky Says:

    Mark Who?

  63. Irish Yeti Says:

    So the Cubs let go of Mark DeRosa? The Cubs sure could have used his blistering .259/.333/.452/.785. A 785 OPS is AVERAGE for you guys that don’t understand OPS

    They let go of Kerry Wood? Him and Gregg are basically the same person this year.

    The let go of Hank White. His OPS is 685… Not so good.

    Ronny Cedeno? I don’t even need to look his stats up to know that that’s addition by subtraction

    Jason Marquis? Even Jason didn’t know he would have the year that he had. It was a salary dump and even though I would have liked to get more back but hindsight and all.

    So, they didn’t get rid of all that much. The main player (that contributed alot to last year) that they lost was DeRosa… He’s not so great this year. One significant player turns a team that won 97 games last year into a team that can’t make the playoffs this year? If you believe so, then there is no hope for you guys.

  64. Matt Stairs Superfan Says:

    Yeti is a moron. Use your stats.

    How many saves did Wood blow last year?
    How many saves has Gregg blown this year?

    Sure, chemistry can be “overrated” but you know the old saying or at least I hope you do: If it ain’t broke. Don’t fix it.

    97 wins last year. Why try to “fix” that?

  65. robert Says:

    i would hate to have mark derosas 21 hrs and 65 rbis a lot worse than milton bradley and aaron miles stats combined 9 home runs and 36 rbis…

  66. Irish Yeti Says:

    “i would hate to have mark derosas 21 hrs and 65 rbis a lot worse than milton bradley and aaron miles stats combined 9 home runs and 36 rbis…”

    Yes, because those are the stats that actually matter. Read Moneyball. It will do you some good. It’s doing me wonders

  67. Irish Yeti Says:

    And for the record, I was only defending Milton… Aaron Miles can slit his throat

  68. robert Says:

    lets look at some of kevin greggs blown saves and the next 10 games afterward…the cubs are leading the astros 4-0 kevin gregg comes in and blows it cubs win in a walk off next 8 games cubs go 0-8 and score 18 runs but they lost the first game of the streak 5-4 and the last game 10-8 you take out those 13 runs that is 5 runs over 6 games

    June 23rd he blows a save the cubs proceed to loose 6 of 8

    august 1 and second he blows a save the cubs proceed to loose 8 of 10

    august 17th he blows a save the cubs loose 5 of 7 on the roadtrip

  69. Matt Stairs Superfan Says:

    Yeti,

    I am awaiting your response on stats for Gregg and Wood this year. You said they are the same person. Back it up stat man.

  70. Irish Yeti Says:

    Kevin Gregg 09 = Kerry Wood 09.. That’s what I meant, if you weren’t clear on that. Why should I post the stats? You guys just ignore them all anyway.

  71. robert Says:

    isnt ops pretty much the same as plus minus in hockey a stat that looks good for player or club in arbitration but really doesnt mean shit

  72. Irish Yeti Says:

    Well, if OBP and Slugging don’t mean shit, then I guess you’re right.

  73. Irish Yeti Says:

    http://sports.espn.go.com/chicago/news/story?id=4421661

    You wanted the sale of the team.. Well, is it turning out how you wanted it???

  74. genrebuster Says:

    Yeti, that’s nice of you to defend Milton…you are a gentleman and a stats scholar.

    I bet Milton wouldn’t defend you.

    ATTENTION: ANYBODY defending Gregg’s performance this year is a complete fucking idiot and not worthy discussing baseball with.

    FIRE JIM HENDRY. Not an original thought but it makes damned good sense.

    101 years of LOSING is TRULY PATHETIC. Not lovable.

  75. robert Says:

    I would rather have derosa 21 homers and 65 rbis compared to bradleys 9 homers and 31 rbis call me crazy but I would rather have production over stats

  76. Irish Yeti Says:

    I don’t give a shit what Milton would do for me personally. Why should I?

    ATTENTION: ANYBODY defending Gregg’s performance this year is a complete fucking idiot and not worthy discussing baseball with.

    August he was terrible. April he wasn’t good. May, June, July he was excellent… Why do you guys have to be so reactionary and base all of your opinions on what just happened recently? Don’t you understand that it’s a full 162 game season that spans 6 months, not 2?

    This is like talking to a 5-year old and a brick wall all at the same time.

  77. robert Says:

    milton bradley has a higher carrer ops than andre dawson who was a better player.

    August he was terrible. April he wasn’t good. May, June, July he was excellent

    june 23rd he blows a save the cubs proceed to loose 6 of 8

    may 16th he blows a game the cubs win in walk off then go on an 8 game loosing streak

    bradleys ops is equal to jayson werths

    as I said ops is about as worthless as plus minus in hockey

  78. Matt Stairs Superfan Says:

    Great. Crane Kenney will be back regardless. So next year, we fans outside of Chicago will only get to see about 20 games on WGN next year. If you remember, Kenney said a couple years back that he will keep putting games on Comcast so he can make more money. Go figure.

    This agreement might include that Crane cannot have any contact with the team during the season. So that means no phone calls to the priest about holy water and no team meetings at Spring Training to update the players on the sale of the team. Other than that, get Hendry, Louser and Rothschild out and maybe something nice can happen.

  79. genrebuster Says:

    Let’s see…how many 6 month seasons have I followed now? Enough to recognize when something is very wrong.

    In fact, I am smart enough to understand that 101 years of losing influences this current Cubs team and more than a little. That is why sweeping changes should be made.

    When the sale to Ricketts is completed, only then will we begin to know who stays and who goes.

    Zell/Tribune owns the Cubs for now. That is reality.

  80. erniesarmy Says:

    9-1 Nationals puttin a whoopin on the Cubbies.

    Who’d a thunk it??????

    Yeah, Lou, you just keep playing those veterans, that’s what we need. More veterans.

  81. robert Says:

    ops which yetti loves so much

    Tony Gwynn .847
    Andre Dawson .806
    Johnny Bench .817
    Dave Winfield .827
    Jim Rice .854
    Reggie Jackson .846
    Milton Bradley .821
    So according to yetti Milton Bradley Better start shining his hall of fame plaque up now cause according to yetti he is better than andre dawson and Johnny Bench and he ranks right up there with with dave winfield and reggie jackson

  82. genrebuster Says:

    Lil’ Z has returned to the mound. I’d trade him before next season while he is still “valuable”…I just don’t think he will ever be an ace….color me crazy. Hope he didn’t hurt himself hitting that HR (really).

    Damn…I didn’t know the Nationals had gotten so good!

  83. robert Says:

    yetti I have asked you twice and you have failed to answer either time based on ops is milton bradley a better player than andre dawson

  84. Matt Stairs Superfan Says:

    Robert,

    It’s not worth the fight anymore. Irish Yeti doesn’t even know his left foot from his right foot so how is he going to give a logical explanation to your point?

    Anyway, I may be high or drunk on this next question but the way this season has gone, I should be given a free be…

    Anyone think that Lil’ Z should maybe be a position player? Maybe in right field? He has the bat and he almost has as many HR’s as the piss head who already is playing there. Just a suggestion. Once again, my mind is fried.

  85. genrebuster Says:

    Who’s more valuable to their team…Milton Bradley or T.O. ?

    ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

  86. genrebuster Says:

    I suspect that Brad Lidge has been hanging with Gregg…

  87. Irish Yeti Says:

    Good job Robert. However by comparing players of different eras you failed to notice the information you needed to notice. I mentioned ERA+ recently saying that it adjusted for the league averages. Well, they have that for OPS as well, called OPS+. It adjusts to the league average as well.

    Here’s why you use it: Like I mentioned, there are eras of great pitching as well as eras of bad pitching. One could expect that the average OPS during an era of good pitching would be somewhere in the range of .675-.700. And conversely, during an era of bad pitching, it could be in the range of .775-.800. So, to better explain that, if you have two guys with the same OPS (let’s say .800) and they each are from the aforementioned eras, then they should judged differently. The first era would give the guy an OPS+ of around 115-120. The second era would give the other guy an OPS+ of 100, or average. When you’re comparing guys in the same era/year, you can just go with OPS and be safe. However, when you cross eras and numerous seasons you need to go with OPS+ as it will not only give you a good judge of how effective the player was against the pitching that he had in front of him, but it also shows how that player stacked up against his fellow hitters. So, using your players, here’s their OPS+:
    Gwynn: 132
    Dawson: 119
    Bench: 126
    Winfield: 130
    Rice: 128
    Jackson: 139
    Bradley: 116

    Bradley, stacked up to the others, is worse than them all. Here’s another thing you need to consider. When a player is inducted, they are inducted because of the years in their prime, not the last couple of years of their career. Why does that matter? That matters because for most, if not all, they had very mediocre years to end their careers. Those years brought most of those numbers that I just posted now, so you can basically say that those numbers should be a bit higher than they actually are. Milton, however is still in “his prime”, as he’s presumably not fading away. He is only 31.

    Also, you decided to bring up DeRosa and Bradley. They’ve had pretty similar years as far as OPS. I will concede on thing to you though. In all of my love of stats, DeRosa is admittedly 2x as good as Bradley this year in a very significant stat. That stat is WAR: Wins Above Replacement. DeRosa is 1.7. Bradley is .9. For someone like you, it’s better to liken that to a guy who batted .220 and comparing him to someone who batted .250. Both aren’t good. Same goes for the .9 and 1.7 numbers. I’m not trying to defend Bradley’s year alone, but when you compare it to DeRosa’s then I have to point out that Bradley and DeRosa have been relatively the same.

  88. Irish Yeti Says:

    Also, don’t bring my man-crush into this conversation. Werth has had an outstanding year.

  89. erniesarmy Says:

    “Also, don’t bring my man-crush into this conversation. Werth has had an outstanding year.”
    ============

    I think Irish Yeti is really Irish Betty.

  90. Irish Yeti Says:

    Also, Dawson is the only non HOFer on there, IIRC. He is the guy with the lowest OPS+.. Seems to be by many people’s standards that he’s marginally a HOFer, and to many he’s not a HOFer.

  91. Irish Yeti Says:

    EA,
    My secksuality should be questioned…

  92. genrebuster Says:

    Yeti, are you related to Morpheus? Just curious…

  93. Jay-Z Brickhouse Says:

    DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMmmm…….

  94. genrebuster Says:

    FIRE JIM ESSIAN….err I mean JIM HENDRY.

  95. Irish Yeti Says:

    Depends on what you mean by related.

  96. genrebuster Says:

    Interesting response…the “mysterious” Yeti.

  97. genrebuster Says:

    And YET I find it even more mysterious that the Cubs have managed to go 101 years w/o a World Series title.

    Conspiracy theorists please weigh in.

  98. chucky Says:

    Genre

    It has something to do with how the planets are aligned with the black cats, billy goats, and Bartmans in the universe. It’s that simple.

    Time for me to polish and wax my tin foil hat. It’s getting a little dull.

  99. genrebuster Says:

    chucky, I don’t trust those Greek Orthodox priests……………

  100. chucky Says:

    Hell, you think I do?………………

    I just enjoy waxing my tin foil hat because it shines up like the front bumper of a 58 Buick.

  101. Crane Kenney Says:

    Greek Orthodox priest?

    That reminds me. Maybe I should call him up again so he can “re-bless” the dugout.

    Hope you all enjoyed the season. We really appreciate your business!

  102. S. Heeple Says:

    Thank You for everything Mr. Kenney! You are awesome!

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  103. jimmy d Says:

    Atta boy, you fuckin’ hack. Start it off by walkin’ the bags full. Can’t anybody in this pathetic fucking organization get the ball over the GOD DAMNED plate????

    Christ, Almighty!!!!

  104. genrebuster Says:

    jimmy d. you beat me to the punch…

    Memo to whoever is in charge of this PATHETIC organization: the Cubs need a bonafide CLOSER for 2010.

    NOBODY on the current squad has proven that they have what it takes to close.

    Marmol, please work on your PITCHING. Gregg, please enjoy your rocking chair.

    BARF.

  105. genrebuster Says:

    Cubs win. Cards win.

    Too little, too late…unless the Cubs play like the Rockies did end of 2007 AND the Cards choke.

    Don’t count on it.

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