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50 Responses to “Open thread.”

  1. chucky Says:

    Fro….I just got the Wrestlemania DVD. You’re in it! In the extras on disk 2. The one that is titled “Finally the Rock has come back to Chicago”. It’s a couple of minutes into the segment, but you’re pretty prominently displaying your sign “Larry Horse wants a title shot” Congrats Fro, you’re now famous!

    Good stuff, man. I loved it!

  2. erniesarmy Says:

    I said a couple of weeks ago the Cubs would be 15 games below .500 by the All Star Break …

    I think I was a little too optimistic.

    I think Fro should start accepting bets on how bad it is going to get before we hear from Yeti.

  3. robert Says:

    Matt Garza you suck

  4. Matt Stairs Superfan Says:

    Losing streak at 7!

    I seriously cannot wait for this slide to go to 10. Talk about being the butt of jokes on late night television.

    Fire Jim Hendry.

    Let me correct myself…Set Jim Hendry on fire.

  5. robert Says:

    should he be canned or caned

  6. Matt Stairs Superfan Says:

    Good choice Robert. Is it possible he can be caned then fired?

  7. The Ghost of Captain Kirk Says:

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  8. Jimmy D. Says:

    Hi All,

    Here’s my take on it. In the last thread, people were talking about changing their allegiance and rooting for another team. You know what? I’m not wired that way. I’m a Cubs fan, through and through. AND, I believe that each of you feel the same way.

    So, here’s what I’m thinking. I’m going to root for the Chicago Cubs. I’m going to root for them more than I ever have before. But, here’s the catch. I’m going to root for them to lose each and every fucking game that they play until management finally gets a clue that far reaching changes are needed. When that happens, we can then hope that Hendry and Quade are both relieved of their duties. Let’s dump all of the old regime salaries and eat whatever needs to be eaten to make the rest go away. Start from scratch and BUILD a winner. At that point, maybe we can bring in Ryne Sandberg to lead the talent search and make the tough (and smart) managerial decisions which seem to elude Mr. Q.

    So, I ask you all to join me in rooting for the Chicago Cubs. Let’s root for them to continue this slide until it gets us the change we so deserve.

    Later,
    Jimmy D.

  9. genrebuster Says:

    I’m in.

  10. Nemo Says:

    When I was a kid, I changed favorite NFL teams often, but when I hit my teens I never dropped or changed a team in any sport Not a conscious decision, I just never could. I’ve added a couple in college football and basketball-where it’s relatively easy to do so because there are so many teams and not so many conflicts. The Cubs and the Blackhawks are the two teams I’ve been with the longest and never changed-since about 4 or 5 years old.

    I think rooting against your team is not a bad idea if you think it will ultimately bring positive change. I know many Bears fans started out last year rooting against the Bears so Lovie Smith would be fired. Of course, those fans thought the Bears would be 7-9, 8-8 and miss the playoffs (I was one of them). Once the Bears turned out to be better than that, everyone was rooting for them.

    Quade has had his chance at the beginning of the season and has failed. Must we keep him here all season so he can tantalize us with a 20-10 September? I say fire him at the break (actually I would have done it Memorial Day) and bring in Sandberg. Sure, he’s pissed he got passed over, but he wants to manage ASAP, right? It won’t be happening faster in Philly-he’ll come back. Not sure if you need permission to talk to him during the season.

    You know, the ownership/management situation reminds me a little of a Britcom called Yes, Minister. A career back bench MP (Ricketts’) gets appointed to be a Minister in the PM’s cabinet and his Secretary, a career civil servant (Hendry/Kenney), always pushes him around and manipulates him into doing what he wants. Eventually, the Minister gets a little bit of experience and a little bit of confidence to now and then stand up to his Secretary and do what the thinks is right. Will Ricketts ever do that? I hope so.

  11. chucky Says:

    I don’t think Sandberg is available anymore. Didn’t he take a minor league manager job with Philadelphia or something? And in all honesty, I really don’t think he’d be doing that much better with this clusterfuck than anybody we’ve had the past 10 years. Quade isn’t THE major problem with this team right now. Tom Ricketts is. He came in here thinking everything was just fine. Hey, I’m a fan too. Come and have a beer with me out in the bleachers. Fuck that bullshit. We need to focus our attention on that moron first.

  12. Jimmy D. Says:

    Chucky, sorry, but your sights are on the wrong target. While we may not agree with “fanboy”, we’re stuck with him for a long time to come. He’s not the problem because he’s a businessman who will eventually realize that this is a losing proposition (hopefully that will happen very soon). I’m confident that he’ll demand improvement once he gets a little more comfortable being a professional franchise owner.

    As far as Sandberg is concerned, I’m sure he’s available; we’d just need to get permission to initiate talks with him. I’ve watched him in action as a manager when he came here (on many occassions) with the Peoria Chiefs. He gets the nuances of the game. He communicates with the whole team. He’s constantly involved. He “sees” the field differently than most.

    Q is a problem. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: The pace of the Captain is the pace of the ship. He’s making poor decisions, he’s not improving the fundamental play of the squad, he’s just not solid enough. Injuries or not, this is still a collective group of professional ballplayers that have no confidence, have no leadership (on the field or from the dugout) and most importantly….don’t know how to win with any regularity. Winning 2 or 3 games in a row is a monumental success when that should be normal baseball.

    Like I said earlier, they need to push off all of these long term contracts for whatever they can get from whomever might be interested. While I’m typing that, I’m thinking that Hendry must go before this strategy is launched. Otherwise, he’s going to saddle us with a bunch of similar bullshit. No thanks. I could see him jerking off while thinking about the prospect of getting Albert Pujols. I’m sure his vision would be blurred and he’d get fleeced by Albert’s agent. Result: we’d sign him to a 42 year, $700 billion contract…with player options for the subsequent 27 years AND a no-trade clause. Enough of this bullshit. Get rid of the cancer and start over. I’m willing to wait while it happens; but, I’m not willing to watch 1) an inept, over-paid left fielder who can’t hit in clutch situations 2) a pitcher who is capable of getting shelled and says “that was just a bad outing”, yet will criticize everyone else when the bullpen blows a save opportunity 3) a bush league pitching staff 4) a sorry excuse for a Mendoza Line 1st baseman 5) a 3rd baseman whose better days are behind him….etc.

    Blow it up and start over. As an owner, you have to realize that the fans will come out to see a team that has potential AND is trying to win vs. a team that is a collective bunch of overpaid “has beens” that show no spark of life or hustle.

    Later,
    Jimmy D.

  13. Nemo Says:

    Ricketts was the same owner when Quade did so well late last year. The whole organization sucks, but I’m not holding my breath that Ricketts is going to sell any time soon. Yeah, Sandberg took a job with the Phillies, now maybe MLB has rules about talking to someone outside your organization during the year, but Sandberg would come back here in a heartbeat.

    Btw, has there ever been a change in ownership where all of the top people kept their jobs? President, GM, Manager-Ricketts kept them all. Piniella had to retire to force a change.

    Pardon another tv comparison, but this is like the American “Office” tv show. The premise of the documentary style is for evaluating which branch office should be closed. Well, that branch was closed 3 seasons ago, why does the show still shoot documentary style? Ricketts has been here “evaluating” for 20 months-when is he going to be done evaluating and make some fucking decisions?!

  14. Jimmy D. Says:

    When enough “fans” say “enough is enough” and they stop spending money on the team (going to games, buying apparel, etc.). If attendance drops below a certain threshold…you’ll see far reaching changes….guaranteed. No billionaire wants to be mocked or told that they have assembled a “bush league” team. Tommy Boy will pull the plug and demand that they field a competitive, top notch team OR he’ll reduce the salary to the $50M level and not give 2 shits about what happens as long as he can make a little money. That said, with the payroll at it’s current level, I can’t see how this isn’t a losing proposition without filling the seats.

  15. genrebuster Says:

    I wouldn’t put too much stock in what Quade did last year..they were out of it by the time he took over…no pressure. Quade is an ineffectual nice guy. On the other hand, Hendry–by many accounts a nice guy–is anything but ineffectual…his legendary signings have brought this team/organization to it’s collective knees….step right up!

    BTW, did anybody see any of John Kruk’s comments on Zambrano mouthing off? I agreed with some of what he said…but part of it really pissed me off. ie. “don’t blame the front office”…what a blowhard! Who signed Zambrano to the long-term, bloated contract? Who hasn’t stepped up and punished Zambrano for his latest outburst? Who allows this CRAP to continue? Hendry is CLUELESS.

    Until Ricketts grows a pair and acts, he is as much a problem as Hendry, for allowing this crap to continue. How many times do I have to type “how does Hendry keep his job”? It is truly amazing to me…

    Everybody that posts here would have done a much better job “owning” this team to date…that is a sad reality. I guess being loaded can obscure your good judgement.

  16. genrebuster Says:

    To be clear, Hendry, kenney and anybody else that is in a position of “power” should be fired. Too bad you can’t fire the owner.

    YES: Boycott the games AND the merchandise….and things will change.

  17. robert Says:

    question for all you people living in the chicago are does the shi… smell worse with the weather heating up….has anyone puked at wrigley due to the rancid smell

  18. Christopher K. Says:

    Jim Hendry needs more common sense when it comes to salaries. The players and their agents must laugh all the way to the bank. Ex: Milton Bradley, Ryan Dempster, Alfonso Soriano, Kevin Gregg, etc. Hendry seems like a nice enough guy, but like the old adage goes, “Nice guys finish last”.

  19. nemo Says:

    Good column by Morissey today : http://www.suntimes.com/sports/5815007-419/cubs-a-triple-a-team-carlos-zambrano-isnt-far-off.html

    Basically, Hendry is running around unsupervised because his superiors know even less about running a baseball team than him.

  20. Nemo Says:

    http://www.suntimes.com/sports/5815007-419/cubs-a-triple-a-team-carlos-zambrano-isnt-far-off.html

  21. Robert Says:

    The cubs drafted shawon dunston jr and trevor gretzky

  22. genrebuster Says:

    Nemo, THANK YOU for posting that link…every so-called Cubs fan should read it…and read it again.

  23. Matt Stairs Superfan Says:

    Losing streak at 8!

    I have been finding myself just laughing at this whole thing. There is no reason to get frustrated anymore. If this team somehow finds a way to get the losing streak to 10 and beyond, I can start hoping that Hendry will be shown the door sooner rather than later.

  24. Robert Says:

    He needs to be caned then lit on fire

  25. Nemo Says:

    Thanks, Genre, I read it a third time. I know we’ve given Morisssey a little grief in the past, but he completely nails this situation.

  26. genrebuster Says:

    Yes he does….it should be re-posted on a regular basis until further notice.

  27. chucky Says:

    Any bets on how many games the Cubs lose this year? I’ll say 103. That’s a nice, round number.

    I’m actually glad Zambrano went off the other day. Right or wrong, at least he had the balls to say the truth.

    “We stinks”.

  28. genrebuster Says:

    I’m glad he did, too. Now, get rid of him.

    Same for A-Ram (who says he won’t waive his no-trade clause).

    Ricketts will need to act soon or it is going to cost him more than he knows.

  29. erniesarmy Says:

    Excellent column, thanks for posting that Nemo.

    I have a couple of comments to make on the argument he makes:

    1) What is a corporate lawyer (Kenney) doing leading any type of baseball franchise? He should have nothing whatsoever to do with baseball operations. If Ricketts was serious about winning baseball he would have fired,, or moved him somewhere else in the organization, immediately.

    2) Why did anyone need to look over Hendry’s shoulder regarding signing baseball talent? I thought he knew baseball talent? I thought he was some great evaluator of baseball talent? If Ricketts was serious about winning baseball he would have fired Hendry as soon as he took over the team.

    3) Here is the key quote in Morrisey’s article:

    “You almost can’t blame the franchise for having the opposite opinion. For most of the last 25 years, the reverse has worked: Give the suckers anything but good baseball — beer, sunshine, a few threadbare memories — and the profits will roll in. If the team does happen to win, it’s a bonus.

    Give them the Cubs Convention. Find a celebrity or a close approximation of one to sing the seventh-inning stretch. Pluck those heartstrings. Billy. Ryno. Ronnie and Pat. 1969 — such sweet sorrow!

    But in the last several years, Cubs fans have become actual discerning customers. They’re not so quick to give their hearts and dollars to an organization that won’t commit to them with a quality product. The proof is in the thousands of empty seats at Wrigley Field most games.”

    The real key in all of this are Cub fans. Will they continue to bay like sheep (Yeti, Al Yellon, etc.) no matter what Ricketts does, or will they take a serious stand against the “business as usual” Ricketts ownership and stay away from Wrigley?

    That remains the key question in all of this. For, I do believe Ricketts thinks all Cub fans are suckers, otherwise how else do you explain keeping Hendry and Kenney? Ricketts is not in it to win a World Series, Ricketts is in it strictly for the money he can make off stupid ignorant Cub fans. Will he get away with it?

    Unless the Yeti’s and Yellons out there change their blind allegiance to everything Cubdom, the answer, sadly, is yes. There just aren’t enough Genres, Chuckys, Nemos, and Fros out there to make a difference.

  30. Jimmy D. Says:

    Jimmy D. is out there, too.

  31. genrebuster Says:

    ….and for that reason, the scales will eventually tip! 😉

  32. erniesarmy Says:

    “Jimmy D. is out there, too.”

    Yep, another one of the good guys.

    “….and for that reason, the scales will eventually tip!”

    … and that remains to be seen.

    They won today so Ricketts is ecstatic; he doesn’t have to answer any questions today.

  33. chucky Says:

    Too bad none of us are around him. He would have to answer some questions then.

  34. Matt Stairs Superfan Says:

    Just checked that they won. Son of a bitch! I really wanted to see the streak go to 10. Starting Thursday, these talentless overpaid assholes should start another 8 game losing streak. I am very optimistic that Hendry will be told to take a hike then.

  35. MadCityMac Says:

    Great article, and spot on! And that picture of Crane Kenney makes me want to punch him in his smug little face. Fire these two complete assbags now!

  36. genrebuster Says:

    You are correct, Ernie (“that remains to be seen”)…just trying to be optimistic.

    Matt…….I hope you are right.

    Please…no more pics of Crane Kenney. I’d rather look at a pile of dog poop (the G-rated version for all you kids out there!).

    Breaking News: Cubs WIN! Cubs WIN! Cubs WIN! Cubs WIN! Cubs WIN!

    BAAAAAAAAAAAAAA BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

  37. ksmc2000 Says:

    You would think that during the damn near three year process of the sale, that Ricketts would have done his homework back then. They paid more attention to asses in the seats than having a good product on the field. It’s coming back to bite the Ricketts ass right now.

    He allowed Hendry to handle player personnel. He allowed Kenney to oversee the baseball operations. Hendry has never had a vision as to building a major league roster, and Kenney has no clue about anything that has to do with baseball.

    With all the debt service payments due to Ricketts, the Cubs will be a very bad team for a long time.

  38. erniesarmy Says:

    Uh oh, Cubs win another one here comes 10 in a row and Yeti!!!!

  39. genrebuster Says:

    This could be the year!

    BAAAAA BAAAA BAAAA BAAAA BAAAA BAAAAA

  40. MadCityMac Says:

    Scott, Cane Kenney IS a steaming pile of crap!

  41. MadCityMac Says:

    Crane, not Cane-tho he should be caned!

  42. The Ghost of Irish Yeti Says:

    You see everybody? All they needed was a couple wins in a row. Now they will be on their way to the top! Each and every one of you idiots overreact after every loss. You expect a pitcher to never give up a hit and every batter to never make an out. Baseball seasons are marathons, not sprints. Now where are my stats at? I have said this the last 20 years but this year, I am confident but THIS IS THE YEAR! You just wait and see…

  43. chucky Says:

    Isn’t it a little early in the day to be hitting the crack pipe?

  44. Matt Stairs Superfan Says:

    “Isn’t it a little early in the day to be hitting the crack pipe?”

    Not in the trailer park he lives in Chucky.

    Before I forget, are you as pissed off as I am that they won the last two games? Just as I started to root against them, they win. Maybe I should do that all the time? Regardless, I want Halladay to throw a 2-hit shutout to start another long losing streak.

  45. chucky Says:

    Nah, I’m not pissed that they won a couple. They will still lose 100+ games this year. There is still plenty of time to accomplish that.

  46. genrebuster Says:

    …anybody here fall and hit their head when they were a baby? Or am I over-reacting?

    HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA

    Oh, I see Halladay pitched 7 innings of shutout ball, striking out 9. Not bad!

    For Lil Z it was a night of “LUCKY SEVEN”: 7 walks, 7 hits, 7 earned runs..in less than 7 innings!

    I wonder if Marmol has any advice for Z? In particular, what pitch SHOULD he have thrown to Polanco?

  47. Pie in the Sky Says:

    I believe Mike Quade left him out there intentionally so that would happen. Dude had 128 pitches and had already given up 3 ER after 6. I know they needed innings from him but come on Quade. You know damn well he gets tired after 5 or 6 . At the least you need someone warming up in the bullpen.

    Then again, he probably thought the game was over when it was 3-0… seeing his comments back in April when he cried about sportsmanship when it was 8-1 in the top of the fifth. Just said hell with it and tried to save the ‘pen at that point.

    Hate to judge him after 60 games… but he is probably the most incompetent manager in baseball. Still trying to figure out his method of thinking on those Pujols back-to-back home runs.

  48. Robert Says:

    Word has been leaked sandberg did not get the job was cause he stated he wouldmot be afraid to pull players who werent doing there job

  49. Matt Stairs Superfan Says:

    Look…Another loss! Here we go again guys. Can someone tell me why Casey fucking Coleman is in the Major Leagues? Is there not someone better than him in the minors? This guy is a useless sack of shit.

    My wife and I watched the Baltimore/Tampa Bay game Saturday night and witnessed another blown save by another sack of shit, the serviceable Kevin Gregg. Some things just never change.

  50. genrebuster Says:

    At least not for 103 years.

SHOW DA FIRE AND PASSION, MY FRENDT!

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