This just in…..”Shove it.”(why not?)



Scott Boras


and, the guy who intentionally throws at Pirates players (whah whah)…ha ha ha ha ha ha

In a previous thread — — our good friend Erniesarmy  had this to say:

Hey Genre, get a post up about this insanity Arrieta is trying to pull. 34+ mill. for seven years? Are you kiddin me? No! Absolutely not! Tell Boras to shove it, Theo. Give him five years at 16 mill with an opt out after 3. That’s fair market value for a pitcher of 32 with one solid year behind him. No more Sorianos! Look at the Yankees! Those long term huge contracts are killing them. And Greinke is going to bankrupt Arizona. Keep that money in the farm system and for signing our good young hitters.

Arrieta has been great, but Ernie is making sense. I hope the Cubs take some time and don’t rush any decisions.

Your thoughts?


12 Responses to “This just in…..”Shove it.”(why not?)”

  1. Pie in the Sky Says:

    Definite pass. We already have one overpaid pitcher (Lester). We already overpaid for Heyward (not sure why…he’s never been that good). Epstein has a history of overpaying pitchers and it not paying off. And in the postseason, it’s more about clutch pitching than having the biggest name (e.g. Clayton Kershaw, Braves staff during 90s only coming through once).

    Gotta keep the bats. Don’t need the biggest names. Look at the Royals. They have a bunch of good, not great pitchers, these last two years. They also have a loaded bullpen, something that Cubs must work on.

  2. genrebuster Says:

    I completely agree.

    As great as Arrieta has been, he’s not “a lock”…NOBODY is.

    Brave’s staff during the 90’s is a GREAT argument against overpaying for any player.

    And yes, look at the Royals.

  3. Erniesarmy Says:

    Thanks Genre, my friend! Would like to hear Chuckie and Fro on this too. As well as the other Cub fans. I too hated to see Maddux leave for the Braves, but like Pie said above, he won ONE ring with Atlanta. I know he thought he would have more when he signed with them. Frankly, with that pitching staff they had, so did I.

    And I agree 100% with your assessment above! Arrieta is not a “lock”! He was great last year! A one of a kind year, but can he repeat it again and again? So far, he has been great again. But, this is only May, we still have a long way to go.

    Look at the Dodgers last year with two of the great pitchers of the last decade: Kershaw and Greinke. They went no where.

    Mets got to the WS with that great pitching they had, but that was it.

    Don’t give in to Boras’s blackmail! Give Arietta a good contract at fair market price. If Boras says “shove it,” then say, “Bye Bye” Jake. Too bad you can’t join us for the rings we will be winning.”

  4. Erniesarmy Says:

    One more excellent point Pie mentioned; that bullpen is not going to make it when you need clutch pitching in a key playoff game. Strop and Rondon are good, but not shut-down! Strop especially is inconsistent. That bullpen has got to be upgraded!

  5. genrebuster Says:

    I don’t think we’ll hear from Fro on this…I wish he’d weigh in on the Cubs from time to time…we talked about it briefly when we got together in Chicago; I understand his position!

    I AM counting on chucky to let us know how he really feels… 😉

  6. chucky Says:

    You guys want MY opinion of Scott Bore-Ass? Here goes….

    After bashing him in the face with a Mack truck, we disembowel him with a wooden cooking spoon, castrate him with some very rusty fishing knives, throw him screaming from a helicopter that’s 200 feet up, then lock him up in a portable toilet and set it on fire.

    Then we just leave him bleeding in the moonlight.

    How about that men?

  7. dvxprime Says:

    I read an interview with Nolan Ryan who said that pitchers are not made like they used too. Waaay too many kids trying to throw heat a la Ryan and Randy Johnson, and all they’re doing is getting Tommy John surgeries and ruining their careers. BTW, everyone notice how many TJ surgeries are so abundant these days?

    I agree with the comments above. Train and develop the young arms, but don’t overpay for them. Don’t overpay for shit until the Cubs win the World Series. End of discussion.

  8. Erniesarmy Says:

    “Train and develop the young arms, but don’t overpay for them. Don’t overpay for shit until the Cubs win the World Series. End of discussion.” That pretty much settles it right there! LOL!

    Cubs lose another game to a weak team, i.e. the Brewers. First the Padres, and now the Brewers. Is this a trend?

  9. genrebuster Says:

    1. chucky….on fire!

    2. DVX nailed it, as Ernie pointed out.

  10. Erniesarmy Says:

    Lose two out of three to the pathetic Padres and Brewers! Well, at least they won’t have to face those two “powerhouses” in the playoffs … if the Cubs make the playoffs.

    No, that’s not sarcasm! Even though this is only May; watching this team for the past 52 years has taught me one thing: If there is any chance, even slimmer than slim, for a team to blow it, this Cub team will find it!

    As DVX so eloquently put it, “Win the World Series first,” then you can talk about huge contracts and greatness.

  11. chucky Says:

    It’s time. It’s time to say that Jon FUCKING Lester is a goddamned bust. 155 million for this motherfucking turd and tonight he gives up 5 fucking runs in less than three goddam innings. Lester fucking sucks, he’s an overrated piece of fucking shit, and I want his worthless bald-headed ass out the fucking door. I don’t give a fuck anymore. And I don’t care if anybody else disagrees with me. He sucks, and he’s fucking useless. Take your fucking glove out from under your chin and stick it up your goddamned ass you worthless cocksucker!!!!!

  12. Erniesarmy Says:

    155 million dollars for that? And Arrieta wants 200 million, or was it 200 billion! No more paying huge contracts! If Arrieta walks, then say, “Bye Bye” and good luck. These owners paying these stupid salaries never learn. Chuckys on target once again. Lost today to Bumgarner 1-0. No offense! No offense for the past two weeks!


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