Chicago Bears news and notes

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Brian and Jay having a discussion about how many whores they have banged.

FINALLY. Football is finally back. It’s been too long.

Even with Jay Cutler coming to the Bears in April, there are still many questions that still need to be answered. On the defensive side, the secondary is a mess. The Bears don’t seem to have a stable pair that can stay healthy and play well. Also on defense, the health of Brian Urlacher and Tommie Harris is being discussed at training camp. Both say they are ready to go.

With the secondary, there are options some options, but no one really knows if they are good options. Last year, Zach Bowman, who played one game and had two interceptions in that one, broke his arm and was finished for the season. Craig Steltz and Kevin Payne both played but were sucked at times and were injured as well. Danieal Manning is another option although everytime he is on the field, you are just asking for the offense to throw deep. I won’t go into the details but most of you have the Super Bowl and last year’s game against Minnesota for proof why he shouldn’t be on defense. The secondary is a concern. Maybe somebody who we don’t know about yet is in camp and could provide some help for this part of the defense.

Corner backs: Charles Tillman…Sucks. Nathan Vasher says he is healthy and ready to go after an injury-plagued last couple of years. Moving on.

On offense, Matt Forte is pretty damn good. Kevin Jones was resigned to back him up and he is in better shape this camp than last year. He is fully recovered from his knee injury and has lost quite a bit of weight so he is a bit faster.

The wide receivers is still a concern. I read a report in the Tribune that the core is still dropping the ball a bunch of times in camp. And yes, I know it is just camp but if you are dropping the ball wide open with no pressure, that isn’t a  very good sign. I do like the drafting of Juaquin “Enrique” Iglesias and I want Earl Bennet to get every oppurtunity to play and even start. Iglesias was Sam Bradford’s number one option at Oklahoma so that is a good sign.

Anybody to start on wide receiver except Devin Hester is fine with me. Hester should just be a return specialist. I don’t know how many times I’ve said last year that he is not an offensive guy. My stance is still the same that Lovie Smith and Jerry Angelo ruined this guy’s future. The greatest kick returner of all time was turned into a number four wide out. How shitty is that? Now, if Lovie puts him on offense for a few plays every game, I would be fine with that.

We know this team will be better this year. Even last year with all this team’s problems still managed to go 9-7. And remember, that they should have had three more wins on top of that. This year will be tougher with everybody else in the division getting better. That includes the Lions. The Vikings have Sage Rosenfels as their quarterback and he isn’t too bad. They drafted Percy Harvin and he is very quick and will be on the side opposite of Bernard Berrian. Then of course, you throw in one of the best running backs in football in Adrian Peterson. That offense is scary.

With the Packers, Aaron Rodgers is probably going to have a big year. He is healthy and ready to go. Their defense is better with the drafting of B.J. Raji and A.J. Hawk is still there. With their defense changing forms from a 4-3 to a 3-4 may make things more difficult however. The Lions will be better with Matthew Stafford and a new coach so they shouldn’t be overlooked either.

The Bears play their first preseason game this Saturday against the Bills. I will be taping the game since I am going to be out of town for a wedding so if I do a recap, it won’t be until Monday.

One last thing, for the best Bears coverage, check out the Carl and Dan over at Fire Ron Turner.

You guys take it easy.

– MM

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21 Responses to “Chicago Bears news and notes”

  1. Captain Kirk Says:

    Give the Bears Jeff Samardzija! He sure can’t pitch.

  2. chucky Says:

    Don’t you want the Bears to win, Kirk?

  3. Sandberg23 Says:

    Kirk…ha ha, good one! Thanks for The Bears update Fro. I was gone for a week and the Cubs have pretty much collapsed so I’m done talking or reading about them at the moment. Fro I am a Miami Hurricane fan, so needless to say I got to see a lot of Devin when he was in college. When he played for Miami he was listed as a db, but just like with the Bears he hardly ever got on the field to play db because so many guys we’re in front of him that we’re better. So he got switched over to offense and played some wide out and a little running back even at times. There is no doubt even then that he should of been playing offense. But Miami coaches didn’t know how to use him properly so he hardly saw the field and when he did get on the field for returns nobody would kick it to him. So he became a useless weapon because they didn’t know what to do with him. So in some ways I am glad that the Bears moved him into a wide out position because I think if they didn’t, I believe we would be seeing the same thing in the return game for the Bears that happened when he was with Miami. Nobody kicks him the ball, so he is hardly getting any touches. However at the same time I get frustrated with the way the Bears use him because they only use him as a wide out on offense. Think of Antwann Randle El when Pittsburgh had him. A guy that was a 3rd wide out, that they used as a running back at times, returned kicks and even Qb’d sometimes on trick plays for them. That is exactly how the Bears should use Hester. Hester was a QB in high school so it’s not like he doesn’t have any experience doing that and I have seen him play running back in college and he can play that too. I just don’t think the Bears are utilizing his skills as much as they can that’s all. Can you imagine the Bears coming out of the huddle and Hester is lined up at QB in shotgun formation with Cutler lined up as a wide out. The opposing defense would not know wtf the Bears we’re gonna do on that play. All I’m saying is that it would be nice if Turner could get more imaginative with his offense when he has the most dangerous weapon in all the NFL with the ball in his hands.

  4. Fro Dog Says:

    That would be good if the opposition didn’t kick straight to Hester. We have all seen what happens when they don’t. The Bears get good field position almost every time because the kickoff team squib kicks it. So they need him to be a threat regardless if they kick to him or not. The only that happens is if they get him off of offense. Not completely as I mentioned. He is good for a few plays every game but not all game.

    Ron Turner is an idiot. That is one thing I forgot to mention. I posted a comment at FireRonTurner.net that he had a reputation of calling a running the ball on first down then passing the next two plays. Example would be Matt Forte running for eight yards. 2nd and 2 and what does Turner do? Call a pass play. Incomplete. Then 3rd and 2. Another play resulting in an incomplete.

    It’s all about running the football. You run the football and you do it well, the opposition defense gets tired quickly and your defense stays off of the field while the clock gets chewed up.

  5. Sandberg23 Says:

    Its definatley true when they don’t kick to him there is a good chance that you will have good field position as a result. But what I am saying is that if he is only returning and they hardly kick to him at all he is hardly getting an opportunities to touch the ball. Good things happen when the football is in his hands.

    Turner is an idiot. He doesn’t have any imagination with the offensive plays he calls. How about that wide receiver screen that he runs??That needed to be scrapped 2 yrs ago. Or Forte not in the game on goal line plays last year and they run dive plays with the fullback to get stuffed WTF?? or how about whenever the Bears have 3 and long inside there own 20 yard line and they just run a total give up play and run delayed handoff just to punt it back to the oppostition. That play there was the one that really pissed me off more than any of the others. I swear if they do that crap even with Cutler as they’re qb I might throw something through my TV screen.

  6. Sandberg23 Says:

    Oops typo… I meant 3rd and long.

  7. Irish Yeti Says:

    (If my italics coding doesn’t work right, my bad. I couldn’t find anything at wordpress about proper formatting so I’m guess mine’s right)

    Stick to the wrestling, buddy. That way, I don’t know what the hell you’re talking about so I can’t dissect how wrong you are..

    All of this info comes thanks to my fellow chest thumper at http://www.startkyleorton.blogspot.com. Dude’s a football genius

    “Last year, Zach Bowman, who played one game and had two interceptions in that one, broke his arm and was finished for the season.”

    Bowman actually had one interception in that game and tore his tricep muscle… Details are gay though…

    “Craig Steltz and Kevin Payne both played but were sucked at times and were injured as well. “

    I’m going to forget the grammar and just point out that Kevin Payne played all 16 games last year… and was hurt? Hmm. No more than any other NFL player, apparently.

    Also, I would like to let you know that the secondary was the best in the NFL in defending yards after the catch.

    The Bears were getting tore up on short passes because there was no pressure from the D-Line.

    “Charles Tillman…Sucks. ”

    Top ten in INTs since 2003, friend.

    “The Vikings have Sage Rosenfels as their quarterback and he isn’t too bad. “

    Rosenfels has a career interception % of 5.2… Grossman has 3.6.. Just sayin.

    “It’s all about running the football. You run the football and you do it well, the opposition defense gets tired quickly and your defense stays off of the field while the clock gets chewed up.”

    You know that Turner’s Pass-Run ratio is 51.4-48.6, right? The league average is 54.7-45.3.. He runs more than any other coordinator in football. They ran around 60% of the time on 2nd Down, FYI. Go here for Turner info: http://startkyleorton.blogspot.com/2009/07/whats-deal-with-ron-turner.html
    http://startkyleorton.blogspot.com/2009/07/defending-ron-turner-part-ii-turner-vs.html

    “Anybody to start on wide receiver except Devin Hester is fine with me. Hester should just be a return specialist. I don’t know how many times I’ve said last year that he is not an offensive guy. My stance is still the same that Lovie Smith and Jerry Angelo ruined this guy’s future. The greatest kick returner of all time was turned into a number four wide out. How shitty is that? Now, if Lovie puts him on offense for a few plays every game, I would be fine with that.”

    Hester went from 299 yds in 07 to 665 yds in 08. One could believe that he could go to 900-1000 easily with Cutler throwing him the ball. Last year, he was 49th in the league in receiving yards. That makes him better than half of the #2 wideouts… Much better than a 4th receiver.

  8. robert Says:

    it doesnt matter who is the best in the NFC. Pittsburgh is going to repeat

  9. Sandberg23 Says:

    DB’s were also to blame for giving up them passing yards as well. There was a lot of gap responsibilities and guys being out of place that the secondary screwed up last year on passing downs. Blown coverages on Berrian’s TD in Minnesota game, Andre Johnson’s TD in Houston game and against the Falcons late in the game that setup the game winning field goal. Those 3 come to mind. And those we’re 3 HUGE mistakes that might have kept the Bears from making the playoffs.

    Those points on Turner are not going to sell me on him. But who knows maybe with a competent QB now, it will make Turner look better and he will actually attack a defense instead of running that extremely conservative offense that he ran last year.

  10. Fro Dog Says:

    OK Irish Yeti…

    http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/wire?section=nfl&id=3621360

    Kevin Payne played had a neck injury last year in late September. Did I say anywhere that he missed games because of it? But when he was in the games, his ability was limited. Sorry if I didn’t clarify that for you. I know you are a loyal reader here so I will try to do better next time.

    My bad on the Zach Bowman injury. Was it me being too lazy last night to see what exact injury he had? You can say so. I knew he had an injury with the arm so I don’t feel too bad. Also, when you start to get sleepy late at night, you tend to forget a word or so in a paragraph. So sorry for that. It happens to the best of us.

    The secondary did suck. Look at the Atlanta game last year, the Vikings game in Minnesota and the season-finale against Houston. Charles Tillman and Danieal Manning were two reasons why.

    I am not going to get into Ron Turner’s stats. Go to FireRonTurner.net if you want the reasons why he is a turd. But as far your stats thing goes about running to passing ratio, that is misleading. When it is 3rd and long, of course they are going to run the ball. Turner would rather give up and punt rather than try to throw long for the first down. Certain situations call for running the ball. When they run the ball, they do it well and stop. Example? Remember when Lovie Smith told the media after that Seahawks game a couple years ago? A reporter asked why they stopped running the ball after Benson’s long touchdown run and Smith replied with “They’ll eventually stop that”.

    Your “stats” doesn’t state the whole point. Any stat except wins and losses can be misleading.

  11. Irish Yeti Says:

    Turner’s W-L: 72-56 I’ll take an average of 9-7 out of an Offensive Coordinator that hasn’t had shit worth of offensive personnel

  12. Nemo Says:

    Yeti, some of your points are such petty minutiae that it shows your gripe with Frodog is more personal than anything else.

    Then you make points like this:
    “Also, I would like to let you know that the secondary was the best in the NFL in defending yards after the catch.”

    I don’t see the reference for your claim, but at espn.com you will find that the Bears were in a three-way tie for 18th in passing TD’s allowed. Any of those caught in the end zone would have no yac of course. And they were 30th in passing yards allowed. How about being fucking honest for ONCE Yeti, and not just give out stats that support your claims while ignoring other, more important statistics that contradict you?

    And you say regarding Tillman “Top ten in INTs since 2003, friend.” How did he do last year? 3 INT’s. Tied for 30th. I don’t give a flying fuck what he’s done “since 2003”- what have you done for me lately? Maybe you want to the Cubs to sign Hank Aaron? I hear he’s in the top 2 of most home runs hit since Babe Ruth!!!

    Yeti, you are a complete disgrace to thoughtful sports discussion. You chronically leave out vital stats to try to “win” an argument and you are willing to go to any length to justify, nay, CHAMPION mediocrity, apparently all for the sake of personal dislike for some of the members here.

    Well, you will not succeed in foisting your half-truths and mediocrity upon us here. We know better. We DEMAND better. We have nothing but utter contempt for your attitude and behavior. It is YOUR attitude that is more responsible than anything else for the chronic failures in this city-attitudes like yours are the ultimate enabling. We don’t believe in enabling here. You are PATHETIC.

    It is very pathetic Yeti that you only like to spout off things that support your argument while conveniently leaving out things that do not.

  13. Nemo Says:

    last sentence was supposed to have been deleted. Fro, we need an editing tool or something.

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  16. Matt Stairs Superfan Says:

    Thank God the Bears are starting. I have DirecTV so I am going to get to watch all the Bears games this season.

    Nemo, excellent post.

    I know the regulars here are mature adults and most of us try not to insult other people who post here but really, I think Irish Yeti’s nickname in high school was “cock breath”. Too bad Yeti thought those people who called him that were his friends.

  17. Irish Yeti Says:

    Nemo, I’m assuming that everytime you said Yeti, you meant Fro… I mean the guy did say the only stat that really tells the whole story is W-L….

    And….

    Turner’s W-L: 72-56 I’ll take an average of 9-7 out of an Offensive Coordinator that hasn’t had shit worth of offensive personnel

    Also Turner is an average of 10-6 with Lovie.. And still shitty offensive personnel… This year is different. Wait until after this year to evaluate Turner. He has a quarterback that is going to solve many of the Bears offensive problems. They also have a retooled offensive line that should excel.

    what have you done for me lately? Maybe you want to the Cubs to sign Hank Aaron? I hear he’s in the top 2 of most home runs hit since Babe Ruth!!!

    With comments like that, you’re fucking useless to discuss sports.

  18. genrebuster Says:

    Yeti…YOU posted: “Charles Tillman…Sucks. ” Top ten in INTs since 2003, friend.

    Nemo responded: “And you say regarding Tillman “Top ten in INTs since 2003, friend.” How did he do last year? 3 INT’s. Tied for 30th. I don’t give a flying fuck what he’s done “since 2003″- what have you done for me lately? Maybe you want to the Cubs to sign Hank Aaron? I hear he’s in the top 2 of most home runs hit since Babe Ruth!!!”

    Your response: “With comments like that, you’re fucking useless to discuss sports.”

    C’mon man, you can’t have it both ways! As you’ve stated before, “Pot.Kettle”.

    I have had my fill of mediocrity, haven’t you? Don’t defend it, it’s PATHETIC…from any angle.

  19. Irish Yeti Says:

    The “What have you done for me now” argument is useless. So Tillman, who didn’t intercept as many balls, but had quite a few tackles (according to nfl.com, 93), sucks now because a great year when it comes to INTs?

    It’s all because of what they did for you yesterday (or last year). So if someone is batting .400 and they go 1-5 with 3K’s do they suck?

    Also, Tillman had 17 Passes Defended last year. The most he’s had in his career.

  20. genrebuster Says:

    My point on Tillman is that 2003 was 6 years ago…a long time ago (things change).

    As to your question “So if someone is batting .400 and they go 1-5 with 3K’s do they suck?”

    My answer is “NO”. Did I win a prize?

  21. Irish Yeti Says:

    When I say top 10 in INTs since 2003, I mean 2003-2008..

SHOW DA FIRE AND PASSION, MY FRENDT!

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