Open thread/Chicago Bears panic time

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At least the Blackhawks open up the season in just over two weeks.

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44 Responses to “Open thread/Chicago Bears panic time”

  1. Irish Yeti Says:

    Sometimes The first game of the season doesn’t indicate how the rest of the season went:

    2003 NE
    2007 Giants
    2008 Indy
    2005 Seattle

    Cutler had the worst game of his career and the Bears were still in the game until the end. He’s a stud and he’ll be fine. The offense will be fine.

  2. Irish Yeti Says:

    Oh yea, one other thing I didn’t cover… The “Panic Button” seems to be a far too common theme around here.

  3. Fro Dog Says:

    Irish Yeti,

    Apparently, you still don’t get it. That’s why I am here. I put that “panic button” on the thread not for Cutler’s crappy game. It was more about Urlacher’s injury. The best player on defensive is out for the year.

    In fact, if you want to get my ideas about the game and the rest of the season, read the previous thread. We know you can read but can you comprehend what you read? And don’t say that you can’t comprehend our shit. We try to make it as simple as possible and have been doing it at this site for a little over four years. If you still don’t get it, then I guess you’re fucked.

  4. Irish Yeti Says:

    I don’t comprehend what I read? You said “At least the Blackhawks open up the season in just over two weeks.” You made no indication what you were panicking for. However, I think the Bears will be fine. They didn’t even lose their best linebacker. Also, Urlacher wasn’t that dominating last year, so making a case about teams doing poorly without him is more just Score Meathead fan talk

  5. Irish Yeti Says:

    I got distracted on that last sentence.. “making a case that the Bears will do poorly is just Score Meathead fan talk.”

  6. Irish Yeti Says:

    Also: http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/13/sports/football/13injuries.html?pagewanted=2&_r=1&sq=barnwell&st=cse&scp=1

    7. Offensive injuries are more significant than defensive ones.

    Offensive injuries have not only a much stronger correlation to a team’s won-lost record than defensive injuries, but also a stronger relationship with changes in offensive performance than defensive injuries do with a change in defensive performance. Teams can often recover from an onslaught of defensive injuries. The 2007 Indianapolis Colts and the 2008 Ravens each finished second in the league in defensive H.G.L. but managed to win 13 and 11 games and make the playoffs.

    Yet not one of the 10 most-injured offenses of the last eight years belonged to a playoff team. That list is led by last season’s Seahawks, with injuries to Hasselbeck and their top five receivers, most notably Deion Branch and Nate Burleson.

    They’ll be fine.

  7. Fro Dog Says:

    Did you say that Brian Urlacher isn’t their best linebacker? You have to be fucking kidding me.

    He was hurt in 07 and 08 but this year, he was playing much better in the preseason and had a pretty good game up until he got hurt. So saying that he wasn’t going to be good this year is a joke. Nobody knows how well he would have played. So you can throw that out. I never said they would play poorly after his injury but it is a cause for concern. He is their best player and leader on defense for a bunch of reasons..

    As far as your last post, I give up on you. Completely.

  8. chucky Says:

    I know this isn’t the right thread for this but………………

    FUCK YOU CARLOS ZAMBRANO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

  9. genrebuster Says:

    chucky…you beat me to the punch…seriously!

    Irish Yeti, you will NEVER get it. Give my regards to Morpheus. DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM

  10. Irish Yeti Says:

    You gave up on me? Because I posted scientific evidence that defensive injuries aren’t as harmful as offensive ones, indicating Urlacher’s disappearance probably won’t be as bad as you indicated? Seems typical for here… You say: I never said they would play poorly after his injury but it is a cause for concern. … A big panic button kind of negates that.

  11. erniesarmy Says:

    Fro –

    You are right, of course, losing your best linebacker for the season is a huge blow. I know, when the Pack lost Nick Barnett last year it left a huge hole in their defense. You simply cannot lose that veteran leadership on defense and expect everything to be ok. Look at the Patriots, they have lost Seymour, Harrison, Vrable, and Bruschi this year and look what almost happened last night. You cannot lose those kind of players and have the same success. Football isn’t like baseball and basketball, football players take a longer time to get adjusted.

    However, I still think the Bears are going to have a successful season, primarily because of Cutler. He is an all-star qb, something the bears haven’t had since, what, Sid Luckman?

    I don’t consider Bill Wade (1963 championship qb), or Jim McMahon (1985 Super Bowl qb) to be all-star qbs.

    They will surprise a lot of people. I still am picking the Bears over the Steelers this Sunday.

  12. erniesarmy Says:

    Oh, and before I forget –

    Fire Jim Hendry and his boyfriend Loser Lou Piniella!!!!!!!!!!!

  13. Nemo Says:

    A very interesting read, but I wouldn’t take that article as gospel as much of the details of their metrics receive only a cursory explanation at best.

    I am not ready for a panic button and never was, but I am not prepared to say the offense will be fine. Cutler is a very emotional player and what will happen when he throws his first pick against Pittsburgh and he gets booed? Could it morph into a season long problem? No doubt the talent is there, but the head? We shall see.

    The loss of Urlacher will hurt some, no doubt. Is he really the best linebacker on the team? Maybe. Maybe not. The linebacker corps is deep. But the possible psychological effect of losing Urlacher is concerning. Upsetting Pittsburgh would go a long way towards addressing these concerns. A blow-out (which could happen) may start a downward spiral. I hope the offense is ready to play this Sunday, because for the most part it was not against Green Bay.

  14. chucky Says:

    You know, while I’m at it………..

    FUCK RICH HARDEN TOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  15. Matt Stairs Superfan Says:

    I read from the Tribune that Zambrano may be traded in the offseason. If that happens, I won’t be happy but I understand the decision.

    This guy pitched well the last two years in the playoffs. 07 was when Louser pulled him out after only the 6th inning because he wanted to “save” him for game 4. 08 was a disaster by the infield in that 2nd game.

    But this guy refuses to work out and keep his body in good condition. So if he refuses to wisely do his job, then he should be traded. You get paid millions of dollars. So don’t be lazy.

  16. erniesarmy Says:

    I see Fuku is circling the crapper again.

    Errors on Ramirez and Soto lead to three unearned runs, hmm, typical Cubs baseball.

    Matt Stairs, I pray they trade the Big Zero, and Fuku, and Ramirez, and Harden, and DFA Soriano and Bradley.

    Then they might (I say MIGHT) have the makings of a decent team next year.

    That is only AFTER they fire Tweedle Dee and Tweedle Dumb.

  17. Irish Yeti Says:

    Matt Stairs, I pray they trade the Big Zero, and Fuku, and Ramirez, and Harden, and DFA Soriano and Bradley.

    This is high comedy.

    PS: Harden’s a FA this offseason.

  18. Matt Stairs Superfan Says:

    Comedy Yeti?

    Yes. I would like all of those guys traded except for Harden who is a FA. Ernie must have forgot because just about all the other players have long term deals. Why not DFA Soriano? They would still have to pay for his salary anyway regardless of him getting traded or not.

    I am a Zambrano fan but I said in my past post that I understand why they would. They could get a good prospect or two in return.

  19. genrebuster Says:

    “Irish Yeti, your shit sandwich is ready…please pick it up at the concession stand near the troughs…and enjoy. It’s good!” — Cubs Marketing Guru

    *****

    Yes, it was highly comedic when the Marlins cleaned house immediately after winning a WS with what may have been the smallest payroll in MLB that year…and then won a 2nd WS a few years later!

    But that could never work for the Cubs…what good could possibly come out of getting rid of disruptive whiners like Milton Bradley…or overpaid underachievers like Soriano….what good could possibly come out of getting some great prospects for Zambrano, albeit a talented pitcher but c’mon…is he really an “ace”?

    After 101 years of LOSING — ie. NO WORLD SERIES TITLE — what have they got to lose?

    Hendry MUST go ASAP…as well as the babysitter Rothschild…past time for a real pitching coach. Lou? Who?

    baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

  20. genrebuster Says:

    Oh I almost forgot…in addition to his wonderful personality Milton Bradley is also an overpaid underachiever. And a PATHETIC selfish fucking brat.

  21. genrebuster Says:

    (sorry to post more Cubs bs in the Bears thread)

    Interesting…”there’s nothing physically wrong” with Harden, “just giving him a rest”. Why bother? Barring a miracle–which isn’t going to happen–the season is almost over, he’ll have plenty of time to rest. With Soriano going ahead with surgery and Harden sitting down, I guess the powers that be are finally conceding. Or did they do that already (?)…I haven’t been paying attention lately…

    *******************************

    Cubs’ Harden will miss his next start
    By Bruce Levine
    ESPNChicago.com

    Chicago Cubs manager Lou Piniella said Thursday that right-handed pitcher Rich Harden will miss his start on Monday and possibly a second start on Sept. 26 in San Francisco.

    Piniella said the team is giving Harden a rest, and that there’s nothing physically wrong with the pitcher, who is coming off two substandard starts.

    Harden is a free agent after the season.

  22. MadCityMac Says:

    I hate Lou Piniella, not to mention the other residents of Assholeville- Sam “Shitbag” Zell, Larry Rottenchild, Moe fucking Hendry, and pencil neck Crane Kenney. I’m off to drink my weight in beer.

  23. erniesarmy Says:

    “This is high comedy.”
    ……………..

    Yes, you certainly are, thanks for playing.

    Next!

  24. erniesarmy Says:

    One other thing –

    Notice the call ups this season, I only saw one that was 24 years old or younger. The others are between 28 and 32!

    What a farm system.

  25. chucky Says:

    Ernie….You should have heard Santo this afternoon before the game. He said the farm system is great! Seriously.

    Sometimes you just can’t shit like this up.

  26. Matt Stairs Superfan Says:

    Ernie,

    I just checked that. Ridcioulous would be an understatement. And the sheeple think everything is fine.

    You figure your oldest prospect would be around 25 or so? Yeah. That’s just the youngest when we talk about this PATHETIC organaziation.

    The only solution is to clean house.

  27. Matt Stairs Superfan Says:

    By the way, I am going to do some research of these threads since the beginning of the season just to show how stupid these sheeple are. Starting with the threads in spring training, there is some humor that the sheeple were posting.

  28. Christopher Kinney Says:

    I haven’t forgotten Lou “Pinhead” Piniella’s 2001 Seattle Mariners team. 116 wins, barely get past the Indians for the division series, and lose to the Yankees. As for Pinhead Piniella’s 1990 Cincinnati Reds, that was just pure luck and Eric Davis. Why doesn’t Piniella go after Milton Bradley like he did Dibble in 1992? Not politically correct? Isn’t Milton Bradley half the problem in the clubhouse this year? Or when he was with the Dodgers and Rangers. Let’s just tell it like it is: Milton Bradley destroys any chemistry there is with every team he has been with. His teammates have probably said worse. But since the internet is no longer truly “free”, I cannot make an insensitive comment. Take your best guess.

  29. erniesarmy Says:

    Matt Stairs –

    Clean house, absolutely!

    You know, I was just thinking, even if we traded the Big Zero, and some others for prospects, it wouldn’t matter, because we have no one in this farm system worth their spit to coach and develop them.

    If Ricketts is smart, the first thing he will do is start firing the incompetents who ran this organization into the ground, starting with the worst offender – Jim Hendry.

    Then start using that money to lure away some of those scouts from the Marlins, Rays, and Twins, et. al. Then hire some decent coaches and managers that know how to train these young players, and develop them into bona fide MLB players. Because, right now all we have are Minor League scrubs that have been good minor league players, but mediocre to bad major league players.

    CLEAN OUT THE ROT, THEN TRADE OUR BIG FISH FOR SOME GREAT PROSPECTS.

  30. erniesarmy Says:

    Christopher Kinney –

    Piniella’s 1990 Reds team not only had Eric Davis, but Barry Larkin, Paul O’Neill (One of the all-time great winners; Yankees didn’t start winning until he got there), and the Nasty Boys (Dibble, Meyers, and Charlton).

    In reality, that bullpen was the reason for that teams success, without that the Reds don’t win anything in 1990. Lou caught lightning in a bottle for one season, and has been overrated ever since. No one remembers what a terrible job he did as manager of the Yankees. Steinbrenner loved him as a player, but finally had to let him go, because the guy couldn’t manage a box of Fruit Loops.

  31. genrebuster Says:

    Christopher, I believe you have sized up Milton accurately. I hope that a-hole is gone next year…he is a LOSER.

    Mac, I hope we can someday celebrate a new owner for the Cubs…and a clean house. It’s filthy now…in a bad way.

    Matt Stairs SF, I look forward to viewing the results of your research….should be worth more than a few good laughs! I think we all deserve at least that.

    Business as usual at Wrigley Stadium: UTTERLY PATHETIC.

  32. genrebuster Says:

    chucky. Sounds like Santo has lost it…sad.

  33. Nemo Says:

    Did I hear right? The Cubs called up So Taguchi? That is fucking pathetic-par for the course.

  34. chucky Says:

    Genre….I’m not sure Santo ever had it. And you did hear that right, Nemo. Taguchi was called up. Pathetic indeed.

  35. genrebuster Says:

    …slight correction, Gents: PATHETIC.

    *******************************

    Cubs only 7 games out of wildcard! 15 games left to play! There’s still hope! Believe! Go Cubs Go! baaaaaaaaaaa baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

    *******************************

    ….it’s not over until the fat GM chokes.

    (that is, the stench of losing…of being the laughingstock franchise of professional sports)

  36. genrebuster Says:

    Matt Stairs, that’s one problem with “stat junky’s”…tunnel vision. They’re often incapable of factoring in “non-numerical data”.

    “Esteemed man by the name of Mike D.” HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA, Good one! (wonder how those urine-soaked diapers are working for him now?)

    All kidding aside, I would have been happier to be MISTAKEN had the Cubs HAD played great this year…and proven the majority of us posting here wrong. But since that isn’t the case, it is fun re-visiting those comments from the “juvenile dimwit know-it-alls”.

    Wait till next year! Unless they pull a rabbit out of their ass…

    baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

  37. genrebuster Says:

    “stat junkys”…”had the Cubs played great this year”….

    SO sorry, Mitch!

  38. Mr. Merriam Webster Says:

    “junkies”…you stand corrected.

  39. Matt Stairs Superfan Says:

    Sorry about all the links, but I just picked this up from the Tribune online:

    http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/chi-18-cubs-brewers-chicago-sep18,0,6241197.story?page=1

    If that doesn’t make you want everybody on the team gone, I don’t know what will.

    Fire Louser Piniella.
    Fire Jim Hendry.

    Well, I have done my research. These are only a few samples of what I found. Make sure if any of these idiots decide to post back here, make sure you laugh at them:

    https://firedustybaker2.wordpress.com/2009/02/10/future-of-firedustybaker2/#comment-1628

    That was from a poster named “RV”. He thinks that Hendry and Piniella are not idiots. Well, one who supports an idiot is an idiot. Look at his later comment.

    https://firedustybaker2.wordpress.com/2009/03/19/retiring-31-jenkins-maddux-or-both/#comment-1718

    Then of course, here is our favorite retard, Irish Yeti:

    https://firedustybaker2.wordpress.com/2009/06/24/open-thread-9/#comment-2398

    https://firedustybaker2.wordpress.com/2009/06/24/open-thread-9/#comment-2436

    https://firedustybaker2.wordpress.com/2009/06/24/open-thread-9/#comment-2449

    Oh wait. Dr. Kenneth Nosepicker has one of his many insights:

    https://firedustybaker2.wordpress.com/2009/07/03/this-just-in/#comment-2534

    One last post before I take up the whole page is an esteemed man by the name of Mike D.

    https://firedustybaker2.wordpress.com/2009/07/03/this-just-in/#comment-2563

    Correction Mike D. The season was over when Hendry went on a rampage in the offseason signing Bradley, trading DeRosa, letting go of Wood and not replacing any of those guys with someone equal to or better. Oh wait. He did sign Joey Gathright. He’s faster than Miltie. So that makes him better, right? And Aaron Miles is way better than DeRosa. That is for sure.

    That is only a small sample. But go ahead. Laugh at these fucking idiots. Look at our comments and predictions of this team before the season even started.

  40. chucky Says:

    You guys remember how unlikable the Cubs were in 2004-05? I think this edition of the Cubs may have surpassed them on the unlikable scale.

    And one more thing….this rookie hazing thing is fucking bullshit. Never mind making the rookies dress up for Halloween early and play some motherfucking baseball you stupid, dipshit cocksuckers. And fucking grow up and act like goddamned professionals.

  41. genrebuster Says:

    2 notable comments from the Tribune article:

    1. If Sullivan want to write columns on “bizarre” he should first focus on the dumb sheep that fill the seats every game, using that dump of a toilet Wrigley Field as nothing more than a very expensive outdoor bar. They perpetuate this lackluster, silly, and “bizarre” behavior on the part of management and the players year after year, because they know there’s no accountability whatsoever for what goes on on the field or in the clubhouse. Those die hard lovable loser sheep will be there day after day, year after year, and if salaries escalate, they just expand the seating, plaster high paid advertising everywhere, and continually raise ticket prices. This is a business plan and it has been well executed for decades, and it works because the product, no matter how bad, is always purchased time and again by manipulated consumers. The sheep haven’t discovered the power of their purchasing dollar. Management doesn’t want real clubhouse and field leaders leaders, they mess up the business plan. They want colorful people who will put on a good show, bizarre or otherwise, winning is NOT paramount. That’s why Stone and Brenley would never be hired, because both are extremely sharp baseball people who demand excellence and accountability, not a fit for this organization And just like the other poster said, announce when next yrs tickets go on sale, there will be a line down the street.

    cubbaholic21 (09/18/2009, 11:01 AM )

    ******

    2. IF I had just paid 900 million bucks for this team. I would start launching people out the door. And not just the players. The GM, Manager, Scouting staff and all. I would also look to market this team as a “baseball” event and not a social one. Get rid of the people who fill the stands that don’t even know what inning it is. So people who go for the game can get a damn ticket. Seriously. 900 million bucks. What is another 100 million at that point to eat some contracts and start over? Please Mr Ricketts, do us all a favor and start over.

    OmarAdams (09/18/2009, 11:46 AM )

  42. chucky Says:

    Aaron Heilman….don’t think I forgot about you.

    FUCK YOU AARON HEILMAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    FUCK YOU MOE FUCKING HENDRY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  43. Matt Stairs Superfan Says:

    7 games out. You figure with the recent 3-game skid that they would only be 4 out had they won those games. A good and talented team wins those last 3 games while the bad ones don’t.

    TAKE OUT THE GARBAGE.

  44. genrebuster Says:

    Ted Lilly….110 pitches…84 of them strikes. I bet he’s thrilled with the latest bullpen FAILURE.

    If Ricketts really buys the Cubs…and doesn’t make sweeping changes, ie. “TAKE OUT THE GARBAGE”, then he is a damned fool.

SHOW DA FIRE AND PASSION, MY FRENDT!

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